Special Needs

  1. Special Needs How long should you try tier 2 RTI for a first gader struggling in math and reading? 1 hr 1 min ago (4 replies)
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    • As long as possible as they tend to get more "help" with RTI than with an IEP (if you get to that point) 57 min ago
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      • op: thx..what do you mean that they get more help? how so? 56 min ago
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        • more service minutes 55 min ago
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          • op: why is school pushing us to get IEP...only been short time child is on Tier 2 54 min ago
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  2. Special Needs In NY, what does it mean if your have a certificate as a special educator? Are you considered a certified teacher? 1 hr 17 min ago (2 replies)
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    • yes, but with a specialty 1 hr 12 min ago
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    • i'd imagine you need a teacher's certificate before getting the special ed one 1 hr 11 min ago
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  3. Special Needs DC will probably score 700 or so on verbal part of SAT and lucky to get 450 on math-ld's so unfair. 1 hr 51 min ago (7 replies)
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    • Don't worry about it. First of all, that's an excellent score. Second of all, your dc is headed to college, and will presumably be working on something that is in his/her...(more) 1 hr 49 min ago
      wheelhouse. So the school will know your kid isn't trying to be a rocket engineer or whatever. They will evaluate accordingly and individually.
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      • I am worried that many schools will not look at him, with the spread and total lowish score. 1 hr 48 min ago
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        • Don't worry about that. My ds has ADHD, and he's at a decent state school. I think their average SAT was in the 1100 range? It's not a bad score at all. When people are wound up...(more) 1 hr 43 min ago
          about these scores, it winds up being people who are talking about trying to get into ivies and stuff, and I don't know about you--but my ds was never going to try for that type of setting. There are a LOT of very good schools out there.
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    • My Dc has dysgraphia but he’s young. :( 1 hr 48 min ago
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    • you should have your kid take the ACT, math is less of a % on total grade. 1 hr 48 min ago
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      • just had dc take a diagnostic for ACT- last year he did equally as poor on both tests, so there was no clear test to prep for. 1 hr 47 min ago
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    • Whats "so unfair" about this? 1 hr 44 min ago
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  4. Special Needs Has anyone BTDT or have any advice? My 4th grader (ADHD/HFA) is in a co-taught class with an aide. He keeps getting into conflict with his aide b/c she is trying to keep him on...(more) 2 hr 9 min ago (10 replies)
    track with work. Fair enough. But the scenario that keeps replaying is around writing, which is extremely difficult for ds (poor fine motor). There will be an assignment — write realistic fiction or a report on explorers — and ds is highly creative and will write fantasy or invent an explorer of his own imagination. Aide obviously steps in to redirect, and ds blows up—1. Because he is “stuck” on his idea, and 2. Because it means he has to start over on something that is hard for him. Any ideas on how to change this dynamic? Ds says he “hates” his aide, but I think she is just young and not particularly skilled in creative solutions. Would love to give her some suggestions.
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    • The school is ridiculous to expect an aide to this. DS needs to be able to dictate. The fine motor stuff is an extra demand that inhibits what all else they’re trying to teach...(more) 2 hr 6 min ago
      with writing.
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      • Dictation is something I plan to bring up at our meeting. It won 2 hr 3 min ago
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        • ^ It won’t help the getting “stuck” aspect but it will make starting over easier. 2 hr 3 min ago
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    • I am not familiar with sn education particuarly, but is she allowed to help him choose the subject and what he wants to write about before he starts writing? 2 hr 5 min ago
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      • ^in this particular instance going with the fictional history perhaps with a true character? 2 hr 5 min ago
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        • I will ask. I do understand that he needs to work on the assignment — not just come up with his own preferred one. But maybe they can strategize together on what he can write...(more) 2 hr 2 min ago
          before he starts.
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    • The teacher needs to step in and make sure ds is clear on the assignment -- aide can take notes for him on his ideas and then ds only writes once teacher has signed off on his...(more) 2 hr 2 min ago
      idea. That way he doesn't spend time/effort on something that will need to be redone.
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      • ^and it will take the conflict away from the aide 2 hr 1 min ago
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        • Good idea, thank you 1 hr 55 min ago
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          • It sounds like your ds is capable of writing when motivated, he just needs to start in the right direction. FWIW many kids benefit from an outline or checklist to help them see if...(more) 1 hr 53 min ago
            their writing fits the guidelines. And outlines can minimize rewriting as well.
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  5. Special Needs Living in the same apartment for 15 years and the landlord has been inconsistent at best. There have been several major issues gone unresolved despite my polite requests. I have...(more) 3 hr 57 min ago (2 replies)
    no lease. Do I have any rights at all?
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    • Oops! Meant for todddler. Will repost. 3 hr 57 min ago
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  6. Special Needs I’ve always felt teen niece might be in dx’d autistic. Her mom lives in a rural area and has not had good services. She is coming to nyc next month for a month. Can anyone...(more) 4 hr 4 min ago (8 replies)
    recommends a Dr. She could see who specializes in diagnosing teen girls? I’ve been reading up on how so many go in or mis dx’d. Thank you!
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    • Sorry, UN diagnosed, not IN diagnosed 4 hr 3 min ago
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    • What about insurance? Does mom want her to be seen and diagnosed? 4 hr 3 min ago
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      • Yes, she is hoping to have her seen. She has minimal insurance, I believe. But at this point, is willing to pay. 4 hr 2 min ago
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    • A comprehensive evaluation takes more than one appt, and those appts generally get scheduled months in advance. Maybe try a research study for some information, although it won’t...(more) 3 hr 54 min ago
      Be comprehensive
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    • My DD has LD and ADHD. We love our NP, I'm sure she would be good for this but you can call and ask to have a qucik phone consult with her. She has just been amazing with us,...(more) 3 hr 39 min ago
      through many years. Dr. Laura Tagliareni. I am a social worker myself, so have some other suggestions as well. Felicity House, is a program for women on the spectrum. Site is: https://felicity-house.org/
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      • Also...check out Spectrum Services:http://www.spectrumservicesnyc.com/ 3 hr 38 min ago
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    • Is the mom on board with having an eval done? And how is a teen leaving school for an entire month? 2 hr ago
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  7. Special Needs How I will select a quality Printed circuit board?...(more) 11 hr 11 min ago (0 replies)
    Hi, Can anyone suggest me the tips to select the quality PCB? As I have to purchase a bulk no. of circuit boards. One of my friends suggested me to purchase from Greatpcb.com. But I don’t have any idea of selection. Kindly please share some tips on that. Thank you
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  8. Special Needs I am at wits end trying to understand ds struggles with school. He is smart but adhd inattentive and very high memory but extremely low focus. Really has no clue how to study or...(more) 20 hr 25 min ago (42 replies)
    take notes properly...all year at new school 9th grade is barely doing any work doesn’t bring work home doesn’t take it to his skills class which is just for help for kids similar to him...says he has no homework. His books are a mess. He does hardly anything in any class and has his phone out a lot and teachers don’t take it away. Again today from math teacher...he didn’t do his review assignment and he did nothing in class and he has a yet Wednesday. His report card was all C- and incomplete. He goes to a math tutor twice a week but I am having such a hard time finding other outside help or getting him to have any motivation what so ever. It’s so sad and frustrating :(
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    • I know exactly how you feel. In our case, it's anxiety and depression. 20 hr 24 min ago
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      • Yes anxiety for sure. Mood disorder type behaviour. Has been on almost every med. horrible with stimulants. Is on testers but still only 40mg going up so slowly. Is helping his...(more) 20 hr 22 min ago
        mood actually but nothing for focus or motivation at all. I think we should add in a stimulant again ASAP to see if the rebound is better while on straterra. Poor kid. Poor me.
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        • Go back to the psychiatrist. Keep trying. I know this is awful. Your ds sounds so much like mine. 20 hr 20 min ago
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    • sorry. have you considered an executive function coach/tutor person? sadly, I wouldn't have great hope it would work but maybe worth a try 20 hr 23 min ago
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      • I would try anything but it seems so hard to find. And the money is crazy. 20 hr 21 min ago
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        • I hear you. my ds is little but this is so far how he is too! he's also on strattera. 20 hr 20 min ago
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    • Is he at a gen ed school? Why do they allow phones? 20 hr 16 min ago
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      • Yes. I have no 20 hr 13 min ago
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        • No idea. The let them listen to music while working. Take photos of notes on the board 20 hr 12 min ago
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          • Does he have SEETS? Is this in NYC? 20 hr 9 min ago
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            • Not nyc. He has an iep. 20 hr 7 min ago
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              • When is your next IEP meeting. They need to make a better plan for his school day structure 20 hr 3 min ago
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                • Not set I can make one anytime. The first one this year was with the counsellor. She’s lovely but I don’t know that any teacher is doing anything for him. They say he won’t ask...(more) 20 hr 1 min ago
                  for help or advocate for himself. And that they have 30 kids in a class they can only ask him so many times
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                  • My ADHD Inattentivekid has SEETS periods, no phone during the day and the teachers know they need to touch base with them to check their notes etc. 19 hr 59 min ago
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                    • SEETS maybe is like my ds skills block he doesn’t take a language he has this course instead. It’s supposed to be a teacher who knows what his class work is and he helps and they...(more) 19 hr 57 min ago
                      have peer tutors and supposed to be helping him stay organized etc but all I hear is he does nothing and won’t put his phone away or he doesn’t bring the work from his classes.
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                      • I'm asking questions about this below and I'd follow-up directly with the SEETS teacher. He cannot be the first kid with these challenges. 19 hr 55 min ago
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                        • Wrote below...what do I say to the teacher? I always feel like I’m in trouble and they hate my kid and think he’s lazy and dumb and that’s not the case. And I just don’t know w...(more) 19 hr 51 min ago
                          I can ask for and what I should ask for and what I should expect from them?
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                          • Who gives a shit- you're not in trouble. You're advicating for your kid. You're doing your job. Fuck them 19 hr 48 min ago
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                          • But of course go in acting like your are trying to collaborate- how can we get DS to suceed 19 hr 46 min ago
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    • why does he need his phone in school. 20 hr 14 min ago
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      • He doesn’t need it but every kid has theirs. They listen to music on the way to school, after school, text each other to make plans or meet at lunch. He goes straight to the tutor...(more) 20 hr ago
        Twice a week so he calls me or texts to say where he is or am I picking him up etc.
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        • use the family plan thing to shut it off while at school. like between certain hours 18 hr ago
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          • Op-every time I do this or put it on to shut off access to apps etc he disabled it!! How?!!! There’s a password and everything and he bypassed it!! 17 hr 50 min ago
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      • Most high schools allow them 17 hr 8 min ago
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    • he might not need a tutor but someone who helps him with executive functioning skills including HOW to study and how to plan his workload, etc. I dealt with this with my DS who is...(more) 20 hr 13 min ago
      a Jr now -- he is much better having someone to help him keep on track more than anything. he doesn't really need a tutor, more like someone to stay on top of him and nag who isn't me (bc when i did this, he HATED me)
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      • Yes exactly he won’t listen to me. I try so hard and he just won’t kisten. But even worse is most of the time I CANT help him as he’s not brought anything g home or has no notes....(more) 19 hr 59 min ago
        I literally don’t know what he’s doing in class or what his work or homework is
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        • Does he have electives? One elective for kids with IEP is study hall. and in that study hall, the teacher helps keep the kids on track. 19 hr 57 min ago
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          • Yes that’s his skills block. 19 hr 57 min ago
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            • And it isn't helping? What is being done during skills block? That is something I'd like to know... 19 hr 56 min ago
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              • Nope. I actually am meeting that teacher tomorrow. His comments on report card just say that he doesn’t bring his work or do any work or take the help or ask for help and won’t...(more) 19 hr 52 min ago
                put phone away. ?!!!
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                • he won't put his phone away when asked? then that's an act of defiance... that's something different 19 hr 48 min ago
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                  • Then you turn his service off. He needs to earn that phone 19 hr 47 min ago
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                    • this-- my DS doesn't have his service on during school hours until right before pick up -- that's when he can text me if he needs something 19 hr 46 min ago
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                    • He can still use it for music, offline games etc. And the school has wifi, they are all connected to it. 14 hr 50 min ago
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                  • Well he will if asked but the kids are allowed to have them out when working. So I guess he makes it look like he’s working but he’s listening to music and picking songs and not...(more) 18 hr 3 min ago
                    really doing any work
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    • Reading this post, I would say the first step is to take away his phone during school. Other kids have theirs but they are getting their work done. He can earn it back during the...(more) 19 hr 22 min ago
      day, but he clearly cannot focus with a phone.
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      • Yes and the counsellor did say no phones, drop it with me in am and get it at end of day. That worked for about two days but then she realized she was rarely there at those times...(more) 18 hr 2 min ago
        to do that. Then she said well maybe with someone in the office. Then one day they lost it in the office. So now he doesn’t feel it’s safe there. Ugh.
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    • I really think kids like this (and others) are just not meant for traditional schools, but they are forced to conform to our society's view of how a school should function & how...(more) 17 hr 8 min ago
      they need to function within it to learn.
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      • there's nowhere it is ok to opt out and play with your phone all day. 16 hr 43 min ago
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        • The phone isn’t the problem the environment is. He is obviously not motivated in that environment 15 hr 25 min ago
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          • Op-no he isn’t and the more disengaged he is the worse it is. He really truly needs very small classes with lots of hands on work and a ton of help. And no phones ;) the programs...(more) 14 hr 51 min ago
            that have small classes like that in our public’s are for the “bad” kids.
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  9. Special Needs Anybody else in their first year of non-funded SN private school and had no response from DOE about our case? Our lawyer has filed the due process complaint, but nothing...I'm...(more) 20 hr 39 min ago (3 replies)
    beginning to see how this is going to take a long time and worrying about needing two years of tuition to put out before getting any reimbursement?!
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    • Did you get a placement you rejected or off the doe radar? 14 hr 34 min ago
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    • We are but atty told us DOE offered to settle in October. Still no word on what settlement is. Atty advises parents to just be patient. Feels we have an excellent case. I am...(more) 13 hr 42 min ago
      nervous. What did your atty say?
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      • ^^I am nervous but hanging in. Your situation sounds nerve wracking. Hope you get some feedback soon. 13 hr 41 min ago
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  10. Special Needs Considering boarding for sn ds for the fall. Please tell me who you used for educational consulting and what your experience was like. TIA 22 hr 19 min ago (9 replies)
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    • My sister used Lucy at Elm Street Placements and really loved her. I know she is mentioned in very positive light on this board a lot. 22 hr 8 min ago
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      • Not crazy about her. I'd recommend Stephanie Crossman. 21 hr 2 min ago
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        • did you use either of them? 14 hr 48 min ago
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          • For consult. Decided not to go boarding school route, for other reasons. 13 hr 44 min ago
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            • Why Stephanie over Lucy? 1 hr 7 min ago
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      • we used her too and found her enormously helpful. great insights into the different schools and why some would or would not be appropriate for our dc. it all checked out w/what i...(more) 19 hr 20 min ago
        later gathered very laboriously through the friends network.
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    • Other Myrna Harris, Barbara Posner (think she is semi-retired), Ruby Loefer 15 hr 47 min ago
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    • Mindy Goodman 15 hr 17 min ago
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    • Josh Doyle 15 hr 16 min ago
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  11. Special Needs Does anyone know in NY State, when a public school offers small group help for math within a classroom, must the person be a certified teacher? The school has the resources but is...(more) 12-16-2018 6:50pm (22 replies)
    using a TA, who is not a teacher. They also have certified tutor teachers but are using the same TA to teach math once a week as a tutor. child is failing math
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    • No they do not need to be certified 12-16-2018 6:51pm
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      • op: it doesn't seem to make sense that a non teacher is teaching core math in a small group of students who are struggling, yet...(more) 12-16-2018 6:54pm
        the larger group of students who are not struggling have the benefit of the homeroom teacher who is dually certified in special education/regular education
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    • If they are receiving RTi at a Tier 1 level then the person can be a regular teacher. Usually Tier 2 and definitely Tier 3 support is with SPED or reading certified teacher 12-16-2018 6:51pm
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      • ^ oh, sorry I misread. The person is not a certified teacher? I've never heard of that. 12-16-2018 6:52pm
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        • ^Typically if it's an RTi or AIS service in response to not meeting a benchmark (or state test score) the intervention is given by cert teacher. If it's small group work within a...(more) 12-16-2018 6:58pm
          class that may be leveled for students of differing abilities, it could be led by a TA, para or aide.
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        • op: thank u. how can I get the school to really help my child in Tier 2? failed math test and had incorrect answers on the in-class math book review day before the test..nobody is...(more) 12-16-2018 6:59pm
          checking his work
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          • Does he have a 504? Request a meeting with his teacher(s) and the learning specialist. CC assistant principal and guidance counselor. Do you want him evaluated? 12-16-2018 7:01pm
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            • ^ how long has he been recieving RTi? 12-16-2018 7:02pm
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              • receiving 12-16-2018 7:02pm
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              • since september 12-17-2018 4:28am
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            • op: yes, has 504...no don't want evaluated right now and we only just began RTI and child isn't receiving consistent reading services and gets math from non teacher 12-17-2018 4:27am
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    • Just ask about the person's certification. IME, these people are all special ed certified. 12-16-2018 6:52pm
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      • op: I asked the math teacher/tutor and she told me she is NOT a teacher. just a teacher's assistant. My son is in tier 2, failing math and this doesn;t seem right 12-16-2018 6:57pm
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        • ok, now you gave more info. Tier 2 intervention should be with certified teacher and should be resource or SPED certified. 12-16-2018 6:59pm
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          • ^ Absolutely remedy this 12-16-2018 6:59pm
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    • Teachers Aid at our school is not certified and does tutoring like this 12-16-2018 6:53pm
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    • Is it part of IEP? Mayb TAs in the statenare state certified 12-16-2018 6:55pm
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      • op: no Iep....part of RTI 12-16-2018 7:00pm
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        • Then it can be anyone 12-16-2018 7:05pm
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          • op: poster at top says not so..child has 504 plan.... RTI Tier 2 intervention must be with certified teacher and/or Special Ed teacher resource room 12-16-2018 7:20pm
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    • Even with iep, they sometimes say the special ed teacher is supervising and then have the paraeducator or teacher assistant run small group help session. It has always seemed odd...(more) 12-16-2018 7:24pm
      To me given that they aren’t teachers and aren’t certified (maybe don’t even have to have a college degree). If you can afford some outside help, I would do both
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  12. Special Needs This post has been deleted. 12-16-2018 5:59pm (11 replies)
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    • if she had cut a chunk of hair, what do you want? 12-16-2018 6:01pm
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        • Well, it's hair. Whatever. She was in the chair, and is presumably OK with whatever they did. 12-16-2018 6:03pm
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            • hair grows. 12-16-2018 6:19pm
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    • How old is your daughter? 12-16-2018 6:03pm
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        • HAHAHAHAHA I can actually sympathize with her knot frustration 12-16-2018 6:07pm
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        • Please update when she gets home 12-16-2018 6:07pm
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  13. Special Needs This post has been deleted. 12-16-2018 5:33pm (3 replies)
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    • was fish oil recommended?I do not know anything about ASD, but I do know that I can't take fish oil with my adhd meds. 12-16-2018 5:33pm
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        • Okay. I am not helpful for this. Good luck! 12-16-2018 5:35pm
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  14. Special Needs For all the naysayers, below is my decision for direct funding......(more) 12-16-2018 4:05pm (4 replies)
    Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law: The obligation of the school district is to provide a disabled child with a Free and Appropriate Education (FAPE). With regard to how much benefit is required for an educational program to be considered as appropriate, the US Supreme Court concluded that a school district is not required to “maximize each child’s potential commensurate with the opportunity provided other children.” Board of Education v. Rowley, 458 U.S. 176, at 198. Clarifying how much benefit is required to achieve FAPE, in Cerra v. Pawling, 427 F.3d 186 (2005) at 195, the Second Circuit, citing Walczak, 142 F.3d at 130 and Mrs. B., 103 F.3d at 1121, explained that a district fulfills its substantive obligations if its IEP leads to progress and not regression and a district court in evaluating whether a district has met its obligation, must examine the record for “objective evidence” of whether a child is likely to progress or regress under a prop
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    • - no subject -...(more) 12-16-2018 4:07pm
      under a proposed plan. In a recent decision, the United States Supreme Court clarified that an IEP must be “reasonably calculated to enable a child to make progress in light of his circumstances.” Endrew F. ex rel. Joseph F. v. Douglas Cty. Sch. Dist., 137 S. Ct. 988 (2017). The criteria for deprivation of FAPE based upon procedural deficiencies are that the deficiencies - (a) impeded the students’ rights to a FAPE, (b) significantly impeded the parents’ opportunity to participate in the decision making process regarding the provision of FAPE or (c) caused a deprivation of educational benefits. 20 USC ϸ 1415 [f][3][E][ii]. As stated in Matrejek v. Brewster Cent. School Dist. 471 F. Supp. 2d 415, 419 (SDNY 2007) aff’d 2008 WL 3852180 (2d Cir. Aug. 19, 2008), procedural flaws do not automatically require a finding of a denial of a FAPE. Only procedural inadequacies that cause substantive harm to the child or his parents meaning that they individ
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        meaning that they individually or cumulatively result in the loss of educational opportunity or seriously infringe on a parent’s participation in the creation or formulation of the IEP constitute denial of FAPE. With regard to the burden of proof in New York State, the school district has the burden of proof, including the burden of persuasion, in any impartial special education due process hearing. The exception to this is that “a parent or person in parental relation seeking tuition reimbursement for a unilateral placement shall have the burden of persuasion and burden of production on the appropriateness of such placement.” ϸ 4404 of the Education Law (Amended by Laws of New York, 2007, Chapter 583.) Public school districts are required to place students in a manner that does not violate least restrictive environment (LRE) principles. 20 USC 1412(a)(5)(B). In placing students into special education, school districts need to balance LRE principles with maki
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          school districts need to balance LRE principles with making sure that students receive an appropriate education. P. v. Newington Bd. Of Educ. 546 F.3d 111 (2d Cir. 2008), Application of a Student with a Disability, SRO 09- 137(2010), at 17. A public school is required to conduct evaluations of students with disabilities or possible disabilities, under 8 NYCRR Part 200.4 (b). Here, there was unrebutted testimony from a qualified neuropsychologist (his qualifications can be found in Exhibit G), that the $6,500 that he charges for a neuropsychological evaluation is based upon what typically takes ten hours of work and is average for what neuropsychologists charge for such an evaluation in the New York City area. Tr. 19-20, 22-23. Student’’s mother testified that she called neuropsychologists on a list provided to her by the DOE and learned that the evaluations that would be done for $2,500 would not be comprehensive neuropsychological evaluations, which she seeks as an ind
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            which she seeks as an independent evaluation. Tr. 32-33. This testimony by student’s parent was not rebutted. So, as the DOE agrees that a neuropsychological evaluation is appropriate and the parent was unable to locate a qualified professional to conduct such an evaluation at the DOE’s standard rate but was able to locate a professional to conduct one at what appears to be a rate that is average in the NYC area, i.e., $6,500, I am ordering that the DOE fund a neuropsychological evaluation to be conducted at this rate. Order: I am therefore ordering the following: The DOE shall fund an independent neuropsychological evaluation, to be conducted by a qualified professional of the parents’ choosing, at a rate not to exceed $6,500.
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  15. Special Needs This post has been deleted. 12-16-2018 3:52pm (3 replies)
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    • I am concerned about Sally's academic progress and I am requesting a special education evaluation. 12-16-2018 3:53pm
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      • >> If you request in writing, they legally have to follow through with the Child Study Team. They will observe, document, and meet as a team to discuss whether testing is...(more) 12-16-2018 3:58pm
        warranted.
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  17. Special Needs Here's what dd's doc suggests to ask for on her 504 plan. She is in sixth grade. Anything you would change or add? Anything you think we're unlikely to get? Testing accommodations...(more) 12-16-2018 3:42pm (12 replies)
    include increased time and option to take test in separate room, all assignments at the beginning of the week, written version of notes given in class, any written assignments over one paragraph can be typed, lists of what to be studied for tests (not the test answers, just what will be on the test). Dd is ADHD inattentive. Wdyt?
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    • Preferential seating in the classroom that is proximity to the teacher and away from distractions. I will say, the giving homework assignments at the beginning of the week isn't...(more) 12-16-2018 3:44pm
      a great one. I'd change that to she gets a chance to make up anything missed over the weekend.
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      • >> Middle school teacher and parent to a dc with adhd. 12-16-2018 3:44pm
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      • op - Great, thanks. 12-16-2018 3:45pm
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        • Also, does she need brain breaks (such as the opportunity to go for a quick walk to refocus)? 12-16-2018 3:46pm
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          • op - Oh, that's a great question. 12-16-2018 3:46pm
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            • I'd add that in. She doesn't necessarily need to use every accommodation, but it's better to have them in there then to try to add them later. 12-16-2018 3:47pm
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              • >> Also add in copy of textbooks to be kept at home. 12-16-2018 3:48pm
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    • Seat near the source of instruction, seat near positive role models, seat in front two rows near teacher/away from distractions, repeated directions, chunking...(more) 12-16-2018 3:47pm
      projects/assignments, student can take picture of assisgnments listed on board w/ phone vs solely using agenda, provide written outline of lessons or notes, copies of all materials taught in class unless available online, student can submit all assignments via email (scan on phone)
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      • ^my son has anxiety that presents itself as frustration and anger. He's allow to leave the classroom and go to VP or counselor office to cool off if needed. 12-16-2018 3:48pm
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    • op- thanks! 12-16-2018 4:06pm
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    • I wouldn’t want my kid to have the notes just handed to them. I’d prefer for her to have access to the notes after a class in order for her to fill in whatever she missed. My dd...(more) 12-16-2018 4:11pm
      is ADHD inattentive - dx in 5th grade. She would have not even tried to take notes if she knew she was getting copies and we now know that handwriting information builds a better path to the brain than typing (or just reading.) I am glad my dd had to learn to take notes. FYI: she is in college now at a SLAC that does not allow laptops in the classroom but she has an accommodation to take her notes on her laptop. I don’t love it but she’s 18 and figured it out on her own. At least she would have been capable of taking notes by hand if her school did not grant the accommodation.
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      • I'm the poster above starting with "seat near... " I didn't add in that DS can't have notes unless he's taken notes - he needs to do his part and they will accommodate hi...(more) 12-16-2018 4:20pm
        he's not actively listening/taking notes, he can not have lecture notes. Same with study guides - he needs to do his and then he can get a key with correct answers. If he doesn't do his - he doesn't get theirs
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  18. Special Needs We were at an event last night. Ds who is 14yo and has ADHD, SPD, and anxiety, looked at the food being served (it was buffet) and chose not to eat. We were at a table with older...(more) 12-16-2018 1:21pm (8 replies)
    people (it was a fundraiser, and it was where we ended up, I knew most of them), all were questioning why ds wasn't eating, and why wouldn't he at least try the food. I choose not to make food a battle with him because it's not worth it. JUST SHUT UP and stop questioning him and me about it.
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    • I think people are just making small talk personally 12-16-2018 1:22pm
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      • no it wasn't small talk. Small talk is asking a 14yo about school, classes, etc. this was picking on him 12-16-2018 1:22pm
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    • Parents of NT kids do not get it. I'm sorry it was an issue. 12-16-2018 1:22pm
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      • it was older people (some have grandkids or grown kids and they don't get it, because they don't remember or didn't have kids like this 12-16-2018 1:23pm
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      • This is true in my experience. I actually think most parents don't "get" parenting issues that are different from their personal experience (e.g., if your kid is a fabulous...(more) 12-16-2018 1:46pm
        sleeper, you tend to assume that another kid isn't because of X,Y or Z, when really it could be anything).
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    • older people seem so very invested in having kids conform. My kid never does up his shoelaces and I'm tired of arguing with him about it, but my god EVERY old person we pass...(more) 12-16-2018 1:26pm
      seems to have something to say about it.
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    • Was the food bagels and lox? 12-16-2018 1:27pm
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      • LAUGH OUT LOUD no, it was chicken in a cranberry sauce (which wasn't that great) a veggie thing, potatoes, and some under roasted veggies. THe food was not great by my standards...(more) 12-16-2018 1:31pm
        anyway, so it was fine with me if he didn't eat
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  19. Special Needs My dc with ocd needs extra time for standardized tests. She isn't doing compulsions but her anxiety just gets really intense and she's a very careful reader etc. Accomodations...(more) 12-15-2018 9:18am (12 replies)
    would just really help. Can a letter from her psychiatrist get this for us or do I need to do a full neuropsych eval? This is for nyc hs testing this spring and next fall in NYC.
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    • You need an eval. 12-15-2018 9:18am
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    • you need full neuropsych 12-15-2018 9:21am
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      • AND she may not get it. 12-15-2018 9:21am
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        • op: I worry about this. It's so frustrating. She struggles with so much and these tests are such a small aspect of who she is as a student but there two exams she must take...(more) 12-15-2018 9:29am
          regardless of what direction we go for hs (public or pvt). She can do ok with time and a half based on a practice test this year but she wasn't even close to finishing any of the sections with regular time. I guess we have to hope the eval might explain why this is.
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          • My ds with OCD gets double time. NP showed reading rate at like 5% and comprehension at 95% 12-15-2018 1:03pm
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            • ^freshman in college now at very competitive school who gets double time. Had double time and multiple day testing from College Board (SAT, SAT2, AP exams) and ACT 12-15-2018 1:06pm
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              • Op: thank you for responding . I’m glad your ds is doing so well. Did you do np evaluation? We just finished a horrific several months of psychiatric evaluations and diagnosis...(more) 12-16-2018 11:03pm
                So I hate doing anything unnecessary right now. Her treatment is a lot as it is.
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                • It was done by school as his anxiety, OCD were so apparent and interfering with academics at school. It was very clear to all he needed IEP but testing showed reading...(more) 19 hr 21 min ago
                  rate/comprehension disparity. Wasn’t thought he had LD bc very high grades but in HS it got harder to stay at the that level bc he couldn’t maintain focus needed for work. Did more than fine but not where IQ says he should be.
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                  • ^point is that testing showed disparity. What does your testing indicate? Very hard to get standardized test accommodations once you get to HS. Must jump through much higher hoops 19 hr 18 min ago
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    • has she had a neuropsych evaluation? A comprehensive evaluation will often find processing issues that would bolster her case. 12-15-2018 9:23am
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    • Pretty sure you need at least a 504 to get accommodations.. you can ask the school psychologist and see how open they are to it...(more) 12-15-2018 4:20pm
      That said, I’d still encourage you to get a full evaluation and pursue and IEP as it gives your child better legal protections and makes accommodations for college level admissions tests easier to get
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    • A pediatrician’s letter is enough for a 504 accomodation for time an a half on tests. 12-16-2018 7:45am
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  20. Special Needs R Paul Barger - for assistance leaving NYC public school. Used Skyer for other son, received recommends for him for moving from public nyc hs school. Thoughts? TIA (1 repl 12-14-2018 8:49pm (2 replies)
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    • We used Skyer for deferral and now Michelle Seigel for private school tuition recovery. No $ yet, but I am much happier with the smnaller practice. Don't know barger, but heard...(more) 12-15-2018 8:20am
      positive things about him.
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    • He's great- we've used him for both my ds 12-15-2018 11:55am
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  21. Special Needs Ruby Laufer - educational consultant. Any info? Also considering Kathy at Elm Street and Donna at Harris Kramer. TIA (0 re 12-14-2018 8:48pm (2 replies)
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    • I met with Ruby and wasn't impressed honestly. I also spoke with Myrna from Harris and Kramer- I didn't really like her style. We ended up using someone else at Elm Street and she...(more) 12-15-2018 11:56am
      was amazing. Honestly can't say enough good things about her.
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      • np-My sister used Lucy at Elm St. a few years ago and was very happy. 12-15-2018 11:59am
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  22. Special Needs Feel so trapped. Ds is adhd and a few other issues. He is in cbt therapy but I believe it is time to start meds. He is starting to fall behind in math and has few friends. Dh...(more) 12-14-2018 8:32pm (21 replies)
    does not want to medicate. But then when ds doesn’t do well at school or hasn’t finished homework in time, he yells and grinds ds down. Dh then feels badly and apologizes, but it is a very bad cycle. I am at a loss what to do to break it
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    • Seek out an ADHD specialist and have him talk with you and DH. 12-14-2018 8:33pm
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      • The drs have said that we should. I wanted to see how long we could hold off. The standards we had was social, academic and self esteem. But those are failing and dh won’t...(more) 12-14-2018 8:35pm
        agree. The drs have said to do it. I’m flummoxed
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        • Tell dh to stop being an ass. Medicating your child isn't a reflection on him. 12-14-2018 8:35pm
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          • I genuinely don’t think that is the problem. I don’t know what is, but I don’t think he sees it as a reflection of him 12-14-2018 8:36pm
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            • Dh needs to provide a rationale for his position- what is it 12-14-2018 8:37pm
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              • Worried about long term impact of medicating, once on it will not be able to function without it. I was similar, but now think we are at a point where what is happening can have...(more) 12-14-2018 8:39pm
                Long term consequences (emotional and academic) as well
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                • My now 16 year old is off meds. He was on them at 7, and he's now at a place where he doesn't need them. 12-14-2018 8:40pm
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                • I posted below about my ds. The brain LEARNS to think and focus. Many people are able to get off the medication and be better. Also let's say he gets off the meds and goes back X...(more) 12-14-2018 8:41pm
                  He is back to where he was, right? What do you have to lose ?
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                  • I am on board with it. I think I might push ahead and have him try it over Christmas break to see how he feels. 12-14-2018 8:42pm
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                • I work with kids with ADHD. If unsure, start conservatively- take "med vacations" on the weekends, try short acting meds. Research isnt finding negative effects from long term...(more) 12-14-2018 8:42pm
                  use. Also, they CAN function without it, just not as well- which is the situation now anyway. I do know some of stop meds when older. That would be up to ds anyway.
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        • I was dragging my feet on medicating. With just a tiny dose my ds's test scores went up almost 40 points...(more) 12-14-2018 8:37pm
          And I have ADHD and tried the medication. Please. Let your child try. You can find the one that works for him
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    • I've posted this before, but making the decision to medicate was one of the best things I ever did for ds. Have dh go and watch what goes on in class, etc. 12-14-2018 8:33pm
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      • Preaching o the choir 12-14-2018 8:35pm
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    • why is your dh resisting? 12-14-2018 8:37pm
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    • I am assuming your ds has been tested for LDs. My adhd DD tried just about every med but it was the remediation/acommodation for her LDs that helped her the most. Clearly if your...(more) 12-14-2018 8:44pm
      ds has adhd and is struggling with it he should see a psychiatrist or neurologist and try meds. They are in and out of his system in one day, so it is not a big commitment to try.
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      • He is in cbt for behavior, social skills and executive functioning 12-14-2018 8:45pm
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        • That's good. Has he been tested for learning disabilities? 12-14-2018 9:01pm
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          • Full neuropsychologist work up. 12-14-2018 9:02pm
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            • Does he have a nonverbal learning disability? 12-14-2018 9:08pm
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    • DH needs therapy. Put your foot down. You’re way to passive & confused. This isn’t complicated. Take care of business. 19 hr 34 min ago
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  23. Special Needs PSA.. An attorney like Steve Alizio, Esq charges maybe $500 to make DOE pay for a private neuropsych....(more) 12-14-2018 7:11pm (23 replies)
    Why do people still shell out $5-7k for evaluations? https://www.edlawny.com/
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    • because your private neuropsych will be better quality and you own the data 12-15-2018 11:57am
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      • I am not following. I had DOE fund a $6500 Salsberg evaluation from the start. Another evaluation I paid up front and then filed an impartial...(more) 12-15-2018 1:16pm
        for DOE to reimburse me. It was the same quality evaluation.
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    • An evualation from m the doe is free. You don’t pay a thing. But it’s not necessarily impartial. They work for the doe and the doe is who’s interest they have. Not your child....(more) 12-15-2018 1:32pm
      So if you have the money or good insurance it’s worth it to get an outside neuropsych that will hold up against the doe in case you need more services then they offer or need a nps placement. Will also testify and hold up in the case of a hearing
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      • That's not true. DOE does not employ PsyDs. True, DOE has a list of their contractors, but the parent has no obligation to pick from that list. Parent picks the evaluator....(more) 12-15-2018 2:10pm
        DOE will fund the same exact outside neuropsych that parents are paying $7000.
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        • No it’s not the same exact. The DOE can only do a psycho educational vs a nuerospych. And yes they contract it out and you pick but they are still there for the DOE. That’s who...(more) 12-15-2018 2:17pm
          Is paying them
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          • That's just wrong. Have you ever had DOE pay for your neuropsych? I have. DOE gives out neuropsychological evaluation vouchers....(more) 12-15-2018 3:31pm
            full. stop. From there DOE will let you pick a PsyD from their list or another PsyD that will accept DOE vouchers. I wanted to go to Salsberg. I filed an impartial pro se and was awarded a neuropsych up to $6500 to be funded by DOE. Salsberg sent me the evaluation and I sent it to DOE. Just because DOE is paying it does not mean that the PsyD is there for DOE. It certainly is the case sometimes, but not always. But hey, if you are cool paying $7000 for an evaluation, then more power to you! https://www.schools.nyc.gov/docs/default-source/default-document-library/assessment-independent-provider-list
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            • ill Tell you I did have a psycho ex done by the DOE but this was many many years ago. Dc is a junior in college now. And it was someone from their approved list. I went on my...(more) 12-15-2018 5:44pm
              Own after
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              • I agree. I did the same thing. But I had DOE pay the $6500 for a neuropsych, not a psycho ed. 12-15-2018 7:08pm
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                • Np: not sure how that’s possible. They do t just fork 6500 over for you to use whoever you want 12-16-2018 10:04am
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                  • Generally $5k and above must go through an impartial. It's pretty easy to get a $4K voucher upon request. Just need to find a PysD that accepts the vouchers. Not Salsberg, but...(more) 12-16-2018 3:51pm
                    others do.
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      • THIS!!! The DOE provides educational evaluations at school by school psychologists who have masters degrees. They’ll recommend someplace if they honestly think a kid needs further...(more) 12-16-2018 8:12am
        evaluating, but theyre often connected with the school system and are not the best pediatric psychiatric/psychological service providers.
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    • Is this true even if your dc attends a mainstream private school? Do you have to sue before you begin the neuropsych? We are currently undergoing the neuropsych and I would love...(more) 12-15-2018 3:43pm
      to get reimbursed!
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      • Yes! I have 2 dcs at ms privates. You don't always have to sue. Your situation is a little sticky, because you started the neuropsych without notifying DOE. Steve gives free...(more) 12-15-2018 3:48pm
        consults, so call and ask him if he can salvage your situation.
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    • Having spent 13 years fighting with CPSE and CSE in the Bronx - I think...(more) 12-16-2018 1:59am
      The CSE district you are in affects the outcome of seeking a thorough evaluation with DOE funding.
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      • All impartials are run through 131 Livingston. 12-16-2018 3:53pm
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    • This post has been disliked 4 times. showI can't stand these posts from rich people bragging about forcing tax payers to pay for expensive evaluations and private schools. Are you proud of your privilege? Help a kid in...(more) 12-16-2018 8:44am
      the South Bronx
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      • what do you do for kids in the south Bronx? 12-16-2018 10:03am
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      • So I should go into debt to pay $6000 for my child to have an evaluation when he is entitled to it through the DOE? The only way we could afford it is to put it on a credit card....(more) 12-16-2018 11:03am
        And the child in south bronx and rich people's kids have equal rights to these evals
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      • Do you have a sn child? Do you have any idea what your child costs the doe whether they are in public or private school? 12-16-2018 11:12am
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      • How is it privilege to ask DOE to follow the law. If you don't like the law then call congress. Further I am closer to the poverty line than being rich. 12-16-2018 3:46pm
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  25. Special Needs Ds didn’t get enough points on his behavior chart today to earn screentime, BUT it has to do with a teacher’s aide making it difficult ... Was thinking of allowing a movie, but...(more) 12-14-2018 5:44pm (7 replies)
    one that is gentle and something he wouldn’t normally choose (or no superheroes or the standard Disney fare). Any suggestions? (Wouldn’t normally do this but it’s been a tough week, and mostly not his fault.)
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    • I would stick to the chart, I think. 12-14-2018 5:45pm
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      • Ditto. Signed, para who relies on parents following through 12-14-2018 5:47pm
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        • Op: I hear you. Here’s what happened today. Boys were teasing and bullying him. He told them to stop. Boys kept up. He went to tell the teacher, who said she was busy. He went...(more) 12-14-2018 5:50pm
          back, the boys started in again, and he hit one. Lost his points for that class. Earlier in the week he lost bc his aide has been escalating things and now we are getting a new aide. It just feels like a shitty week to lose points.
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          • ^ but maybe we’ll play a board game or something special instead 12-14-2018 5:51pm
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            • I'd cut him some slack. Sounds like a tough week. 12-14-2018 5:56pm
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              • That’s why I was thinking of watching Planet Earth or something 12-14-2018 6:00pm
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          • board game sounds good. 12-14-2018 5:54pm
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