# DC is being counseled to take AP statistics in her senior year instead of calculus. How on earth is the reasonable? These students haven't had any other than rudimentary... (more)

statistics over the years. There no gen ed statistics course. DC doing well in pre-calc this year

posted February 17th, 2018 at 9:14am in Toddler

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- You don't need rudimentary statistics. I took my first statistics class in engineering school - it's conceptual and there is not that much "math" 2-17-2018 9:14am
*+1*like- I just remember a lot of concern about it in college. People would take over summer as to not have to deal with pressure of other classes, etc. She is planning a science major. Is...(more) 2-17-2018 9:15am
- Statistics is a far more useful topic across a multitude of disciplines than calculus. 2-17-2018 9:17am
*+3*likes- ITA. I'm just thinking for the longer term. She's specifically interested in biomedical research 2-17-2018 9:19am
- The one thing HS Calc does do is signal academic rigor to highly selective colleges. 2-17-2018 9:20am
*+2*likes- AP stats does not? 2-17-2018 9:21am
- Nope, stats is easier. 2-17-2018 9:21am
*+1*like- so the kids I went to college with were freaked out over stats for nothing? 2-17-2018 9:22am
*-2*dislikes- You need stats for various things. I was not at all a math person and it was challenging. For math people it’s an easier course 2-17-2018 9:23am
*+1*like- np But did you take calc? It probably would have been much harder for you 2-17-2018 9:25am
- Of course I didn’t, you’re right that’s the point: stats is a course you take in college and grad school for different things. People freak out about it because they don’t always...(more) 2-17-2018 9:27am
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- Of course I didn’t, you’re right that’s the point: stats is a course you take in college and grad school for different things. People freak out about it because they don’t always...(more) 2-17-2018 9:27am

- np But did you take calc? It probably would have been much harder for you 2-17-2018 9:25am
- Stats is easier if your mind works that way. 2-17-2018 9:23am
- that's what her math teacher said 2-17-2018 9:23am
*+1*like- Sounds like her math teacher doesn’t think she has the aptitude for calculus 2-17-2018 9:24am
- Perhaps, though she's a top of her class in his current pre-calc class. 2-17-2018 9:25am
- I don't understand why she can't do both. 2-17-2018 9:25am
*+1*like- again school won't allow students to take two math and two science. 2-17-2018 9:27am
- I see. Then I would push for Calculus. 2-17-2018 9:27am

- again school won't allow students to take two math and two science. 2-17-2018 9:27am
- Strange for him to be so concerned then 2-17-2018 9:26am

- I don't understand why she can't do both. 2-17-2018 9:25am

- Perhaps, though she's a top of her class in his current pre-calc class. 2-17-2018 9:25am
- LOL 2-17-2018 9:32am
- ? 2-17-2018 9:33am

- Sounds like her math teacher doesn’t think she has the aptitude for calculus 2-17-2018 9:24am

- that's what her math teacher said 2-17-2018 9:23am
- Yup. What I meant was that I took college-level stats in a STEM major w/o ever doing it in HS and it was fine. 2-17-2018 9:24am
*+1*like- What are you doing now? 2-17-2018 9:25am
- Housewife! But I did research for many years (designing hardware). 2-17-2018 9:27am

- What are you doing now? 2-17-2018 9:25am

- You need stats for various things. I was not at all a math person and it was challenging. For math people it’s an easier course 2-17-2018 9:23am

- so the kids I went to college with were freaked out over stats for nothing? 2-17-2018 9:22am
- It does, but not quite as much. 2-17-2018 9:21am
- ^ my dd wanted to take stats but her college counselor advised her to take BC calc instead because of her target college list. 2-17-2018 9:23am
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- ^ my dd wanted to take stats but her college counselor advised her to take BC calc instead because of her target college list. 2-17-2018 9:23am

- Nope, stats is easier. 2-17-2018 9:21am
- But a college might not care so much if you have a kids who is headed for the liberal arts 2-17-2018 9:23am

- AP stats does not? 2-17-2018 9:21am

- The one thing HS Calc does do is signal academic rigor to highly selective colleges. 2-17-2018 9:20am

- ITA. I'm just thinking for the longer term. She's specifically interested in biomedical research 2-17-2018 9:19am

- Statistics is a far more useful topic across a multitude of disciplines than calculus. 2-17-2018 9:17am
- Same. She should take calc. 2-17-2018 9:17am

- I just remember a lot of concern about it in college. People would take over summer as to not have to deal with pressure of other classes, etc. She is planning a science major. Is...(more) 2-17-2018 9:15am
- maybe they think he needs more AP courses on this transcript. Can you take AP Calc? 2-17-2018 9:15am
- he said "she has the mind for it" (this is math teacher who had her for geometry in which she excelled, and is doing very well in pre-calc 2-17-2018 9:16am
- ^and yes, she can take AP calc 2-17-2018 9:16am
- Perfect. She can take both then. 2-17-2018 9:18am
- she can't, she's taking two science classes and her school won't allow 2 math 2-17-2018 9:19am
- Why does the school have a policy that hurts students like tha 2-17-2018 9:22am
- They can take 2 math classes, but then they can't take 2 science. She wants two sciences 2-17-2018 9:23am
- And then go to a liberal arts school? Makes no sense 2-17-2018 9:25am
- she's interested in biomedical research 2-17-2018 9:25am

- And then go to a liberal arts school? Makes no sense 2-17-2018 9:25am

- They can take 2 math classes, but then they can't take 2 science. She wants two sciences 2-17-2018 9:23am

- Why does the school have a policy that hurts students like tha 2-17-2018 9:22am

- she can't, she's taking two science classes and her school won't allow 2 math 2-17-2018 9:19am

- Perfect. She can take both then. 2-17-2018 9:18am

- ^and yes, she can take AP calc 2-17-2018 9:16am

- he said "she has the mind for it" (this is math teacher who had her for geometry in which she excelled, and is doing very well in pre-calc 2-17-2018 9:16am
- Statistics so much more practical and useful in life 2-17-2018 9:16am
*+2*likes,*-1*dislike - Statistics will be much more useful in life than calculus 2-17-2018 9:16am
*-1*dislike - AP Stats should be taken in addition to AP Calc not as a substitute (if student strong in math and headed in that area for college). That said, many majors require a stats course...(more) 2-17-2018 9:16am
*+1*likeso it's great way to start with the subject if it won't ruin there GPA- her school won't let her take 2 sciences and 2 math. She def wants two science 2-17-2018 9:17am
- Our school says AP Calc not AP stats unless taking both (High-achieving public) 2-17-2018 9:19am
*+2*likes- OP - this is what I thought. Her math teacher she's had twice and "gets" her recommended otherwise. I'm confused 2-17-2018 9:20am
- Sort of depends on what type of college she's interested in. For top tier colleges, you need Calc. 2-17-2018 9:21am
*+1*like- Def not. She's looking at seven sisters level 2-17-2018 9:22am
- This post has been disliked 3 times. showThen why is she taking any math and science? It’s not like she is going to meet guys who are marriage material there 2-17-2018 9:24am
*-3*dislikes- Even as a snark this makes zero sense. Guessing you didn’t make it into college at all 2-17-2018 9:31am
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- Even as a snark this makes zero sense. Guessing you didn’t make it into college at all 2-17-2018 9:31am
- Np.Then what's your anxiety about here? 2-17-2018 9:26am

- This post has been disliked 3 times. showThen why is she taking any math and science? It’s not like she is going to meet guys who are marriage material there 2-17-2018 9:24am
- And statistics 2-17-2018 9:23am
*-1*dislike- np - No, you do not NEED to have taken AP Stats for any college. Calculus, yes, but not stats. 2-17-2018 9:34am
*+1*like- THIS 2-17-2018 9:35am
*+1*like- TY!!! 2-17-2018 9:36am

- THIS 2-17-2018 9:35am

- np - No, you do not NEED to have taken AP Stats for any college. Calculus, yes, but not stats. 2-17-2018 9:34am

- Def not. She's looking at seven sisters level 2-17-2018 9:22am

- Sort of depends on what type of college she's interested in. For top tier colleges, you need Calc. 2-17-2018 9:21am

- OP - this is what I thought. Her math teacher she's had twice and "gets" her recommended otherwise. I'm confused 2-17-2018 9:20am

- Our school says AP Calc not AP stats unless taking both (High-achieving public) 2-17-2018 9:19am
- Calculus more likely to ruin a GPA 2-17-2018 9:17am
*+1*like- She 's been an A student in pre-calc if that matters 2-17-2018 9:21am
- She needs to take Calculus. Save the stats for college. 2-17-2018 9:23am
*+1*like- Again, ty this is useful 2-17-2018 9:23am
- My dd hates math, is a poli sci major, stats would have been for more useful. She took calculus, hated it, but felt she wouldn't get into college without it. 2-17-2018 9:27am

- Again, ty this is useful 2-17-2018 9:23am

- She needs to take Calculus. Save the stats for college. 2-17-2018 9:23am

- She 's been an A student in pre-calc if that matters 2-17-2018 9:21am

- her school won't let her take 2 sciences and 2 math. She def wants two science 2-17-2018 9:17am
- That is excellent advice 2-17-2018 9:16am
*-1*dislike - More college majors require statistics than calculus. 2-17-2018 9:17am
*+1*like,*-1*dislike- This. 2-17-2018 9:18am
- Graduate schools too 2-17-2018 9:19am
- no, you can take stats in college. 2-18-2018 12:31am

- It's what kids who they think aren't going to do well in Calc take. It required to pre-req 2-17-2018 9:17am
- My understanding is that very selective colleges will judge your dc for not taking calculus. Stats is more useful, I think, but I'd ask counselor. 2-17-2018 9:19am
*+1*like- TY I will. 2-17-2018 9:20am
- poster above - this is what our HS says so if not going to take both, AP Calc for college admissions 2-17-2018 9:20am
*+2*likes- I really appreciate this, I'm meeting with college counselor next week and this is helping me to frame questions 2-17-2018 9:21am
- I posted below about teaching stats. If dc is going into engineering, don't take stats. If her goal is research or law, take stats. 2-17-2018 9:24am
*+2*likes- her interest in biomedical research 2-17-2018 9:27am
- stats + independent research project 2-17-2018 9:28am
- she'll be working at a lab doing bench research. I don't know if they will let her do an independent project, maybe - she can ask after she gets settled in this June 2-17-2018 9:30am

- I would push for calculus. You can always study stats later, not a big deal 2-17-2018 9:35am
*+1*like- Thanks. Again, all of this is extremely helpful 2-17-2018 9:35am
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- Thanks. Again, all of this is extremely helpful 2-17-2018 9:35am

- stats + independent research project 2-17-2018 9:28am

- her interest in biomedical research 2-17-2018 9:27am

- I posted below about teaching stats. If dc is going into engineering, don't take stats. If her goal is research or law, take stats. 2-17-2018 9:24am

- I really appreciate this, I'm meeting with college counselor next week and this is helping me to frame questions 2-17-2018 9:21am

- Stats is really easy. So is AP statss 2-17-2018 9:22am
*+1*like- ^ If the decision is AP Calc vs. AP Stats then definitely go for Calc 2-17-2018 9:24am
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- ^ If the decision is AP Calc vs. AP Stats then definitely go for Calc 2-17-2018 9:24am
- I teach stats (in grad school, not AP) and she'll do fine. It's not math but it helps to understand math. Plus it is a very useful class. 2-17-2018 9:22am
- thanks, this is encouraging. I just don't get the confusion for college entrance. I want dd to do what she wants 2-17-2018 9:24am
- I think this is always the best policy. Everything else is just gamesmanship and no one really knows if it works out or not. 2-17-2018 9:25am
*+1*like - If dc takes stats, have her work on a research project. My niece took ap stats and volunteered with the Red Cross on a project which got her into several great schools. 2-17-2018 9:27am
*+1*like- nice! she has an internship that will carry over through school year, prob won't have time but I'm going to ask, this sounds amazing 2-17-2018 9:29am
- GOod. Even knowing how to interpret SPSS data is huge....and not hard. 2-17-2018 9:30am
- She had the opportunity to work in a lab but not in bench research but in coding (R). She hated the idea - I did my best to explain how valuable it would be but couldn't move her 2-17-2018 9:32am

- GOod. Even knowing how to interpret SPSS data is huge....and not hard. 2-17-2018 9:30am

- nice! she has an internship that will carry over through school year, prob won't have time but I'm going to ask, this sounds amazing 2-17-2018 9:29am

- I think this is always the best policy. Everything else is just gamesmanship and no one really knows if it works out or not. 2-17-2018 9:25am

- thanks, this is encouraging. I just don't get the confusion for college entrance. I want dd to do what she wants 2-17-2018 9:24am
- My dd took AP Stats as a sophomore. She said it was the easiest AP course she took in HS. 2-17-2018 9:40am
*+2*likes - Ask her teacher why. Is DD in the top level math track? 2-18-2018 12:34am