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• This terrifying notion is called the Independent State Legislature doctrine, and it seems likely that as many as four justices already support it. 7-2-2022 12:50pm
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  • That’s nuts. 7-2-2022 12:53pm
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• The Supreme Court is on an ideological spree to take up state Republican power grab scheme...(more) 7-2-2022 12:52pm
  https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/supreme-court-consider-radical-independent-legislature-theory-rcna36301

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• The legislatures should handle elections. 7-2-2022 12:54pm -2 dislikes
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  • we know you support this fascist coup 7-2-2022 12:55pm
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    • IT’s only a fascist coup when you disagree with their decisions. 7-2-2022 1:41pm
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      • no, there is an actual factual definition of a fascist coup, and this is it 7-2-2022 1:51pm
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        • SCOTUS is giving itself LESS power. So no. 7-2-2022 1:52pm
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          • wrong - it is a fascist right wing religious minority giving itself more power by subverting democracy 7-2-2022 1:56pm
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            • HOw is it subverting democracy to, for example, give the PEOPLE power to vote for representatives who will make laws that the people want, rather than making law themselves? 7-2-2022 1:59pm
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              • The problem is that those legislatures are giving themselves the right to award electoral votes to whomever they want regardless of who won 7-2-2022 2:00pm +1 like
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              • you want to eliminate the rule of law. That is evil and fascist 7-2-2022 2:01pm
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  • If that had been the case in the last presidential election, Trump zealots would have given him electoral votes that were NOT the will of the voters/public. They’ve said as much....(more) 7-2-2022 12:59pm
    It will be the end of our country as we know it

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  • State legislatures don’t have sole authority over elections. 7-2-2022 1:01pm
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    • There are state laws, state constitutions, state elections procedures, and state courts that help dictate the process 7-2-2022 1:01pm
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      • But under the so-called “independent state legislature” doctrine, legislators would have the power to bypass those other checks and act unilaterally. 7-2-2022 1:01pm
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        • Exactly. This democracy is done/ 7-2-2022 1:18pm +1 like, -1 dislike
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          • wrong, we've fought and won against greater odds than this 7-2-2022 1:27pm
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            • FFS! Shut up with your naive crap. The rules have changed! We have never had an internal fight where the goal of one side was to do away with democracy until now! 7-2-2022 1:39pm
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              • wrong. we fought for independence at the start of our country, we fought against slavery, Jim Crow, and we won the vote for women - we have always had to fight and when we fight...(more) 7-2-2022 1:47pm
                we win

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                • You are missing the point entirely. This is not at all the same thing 7-2-2022 1:52pm
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                  • you want to declare democracy over so that people despair and give up. pretty evil of you. 7-2-2022 1:59pm
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                    • I’m black, this is the last thing I want! The GOP definitely don’t have my interests at heart 7-2-2022 2:05pm
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• It would hand absolute power of elections to a handful of politicians, with no involvement from the court - even if they are breaking the state constitution 7-2-2022 12:54pm
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  • it is a purposeful misreading of the law and is based on a pretext in Bush v. Gore 7-2-2022 12:56pm
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• Legislators are elected but he people, but you complain about their control rather than the courts. 7-2-2022 12:56pm
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  • there is no basis in law for this - it is a coup 7-2-2022 12:57pm
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    • There actually is, it’s all legal. The legislatures have always had the power to do this. They just never attempted to use that power until the most corrupt person on the planet...(more) 7-2-2022 1:56pm
      became president

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      • this is incorrect 7-2-2022 2:04pm -1 dislike
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        • It’s not incorrect. State Levi have the right to change their laws whenever they want to , they also have the right to take back control of electors which is what they’re doing....(more) 7-2-2022 2:18pm
          It is all legal

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          • Wrong 7-3-2022 11:54am
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• I posted about this last week and no one cared. It was so weird. Our country is on the verge of losing democracy and so many people are just unconcerned 7-2-2022 12:56pm
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  • people are in shock 7-2-2022 12:57pm
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    • But they ignored things for much longer than just now. I’ve been posting about contingent elections and republicans going straight to the electoral vote since 2017 and everyone...(more) 7-2-2022 1:01pm -1 dislike
      just thought it was conspiracy. They just expected everything to work itself out in the end. Now they see the end is the end of life as we’ve known it and they wonder how we got here

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      • people know that a minority of religious fanatics are trying to take control of our lives 7-2-2022 1:02pm +2 likes
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        • But their rule. Becomes the majority. This is sickening. 7-2-2022 1:18pm
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          • Np bitch, I’ve been voting for democrats up and down the ticket for 32 years. What else can I do? I will protest. I make calls. But What else can I do? Handwringing on ybm does...(more) 7-2-2022 1:30pm
            nothing.

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            • you could run for precinct chair, supervise elections, run for office 7-2-2022 1:35pm
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            • volunteer at the polls, write postcards, stop wringing your hands and calling people who are supposedly on your side names? 7-2-2022 1:36pm
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              • What exactly is this supposed to do against red states? 7-2-2022 1:40pm
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                • Women couldn’t vote. Yet they won the right to vote. How did that happen? 7-3-2022 11:54am
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              • I do all of this! 7-2-2022 1:51pm
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      • what should be done about it? 7-2-2022 1:03pm
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        • we need to organize and vote, that is the only way 7-2-2022 1:03pm -1 dislike
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          • Disliker, explain yourself. 7-2-2022 1:20pm +1 like
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            • I did just below your post. You’re late, you’re lacing up your sneakers for a race that’s already over 7-2-2022 1:33pm
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              • despair troll wants to pretend this is over, but it is nt 7-2-2022 1:37pm -1 dislike
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                • Keep calling me names, that’s what this board did ever since I first began posting. I tried to tell this board years ago. I wrote to my elected officials, no one took it seriously...(more) 7-2-2022 1:44pm
                  until now

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                  • People took things seriously. You can do that without pretending there is no hope 7-3-2022 11:55am
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        • It’s a bit late at this point to do anything to stop this. The time to stop it was a few years ago by voting people into congress and state legislatures who wouldn’t go along with...(more) 7-2-2022 1:14pm -1 dislike
          the plan . There are now too many people and laws in place to change that . We are far beyond the organizing and voting stage. Republicans have already completed their legal coup while we’re still pouring over Jan 6 like it’s the only thing that matters. What is the point in caring about Jan 6th when the GOP has already stolen democracy

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          • So we’ll said. Incredibly half the country sees nothing wrong with January 6. 7-2-2022 1:21pm +1 like
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          • wrong - that is the way we have always won before. We need a Democratic Party super majority - then we can fix everything 7-2-2022 1:27pm -1 dislike
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            • This is not the same game as before!!!!! This is the problem with democrats, they’re playing by old old rules and don’t notice the game has completely changed 7-2-2022 1:35pm
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              • I guess you want violent revolution and you aren't a supporter of the Democratic Party - you are more likely a Putin supporter. 7-2-2022 1:38pm
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                • I never wanted any of this and I don’t want it now. It’s just that all your organizing at this point does nothing to change the laws they have already put in place 7-2-2022 1:45pm
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                  • Laws can be changed. Why do you only despair and never admit that there are solutions? 7-3-2022 11:56am
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  • I agree it’s devastating. 7-2-2022 1:14pm
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• It would be good to give the power back to the people's elected representatives. 7-2-2022 12:57pm +1 like, -1 dislike
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• former U.S. Court of Appeals Judge J. Michael Luttig, a giant in conservative legal circles, warned Americans that Republicans would try to steal upcoming elections. 7-2-2022 12:58pm
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  • Luttig made the case that the cornerstone of the Republican plan was to have the Supreme Court endorse an obscure idea called the “independent state legislature” doctrine 7-2-2022 12:59pm
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• That is consistent with the Constitution. 7-2-2022 12:59pm
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  • the doctrine has no basis - it is invented as a pretext to seize power 7-2-2022 1:00pm
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  • Yes, that has always been the case but the intent has changed. No one has ever been immoral enough to try and take the vote entirely away from the people and have state...(more) 7-2-2022 1:06pm +2 likes
    legislatures award votes to their own slate of electors, until now. There have already been enough red states who have changed their legislative laws to legally do this which means we have already lost democracy

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• It makes me feel stupid that I’ve never really been interested in state politics. I research my votes for congress, senate etc because many candidates run unappossed for local...(more) 7-2-2022 1:04pm
  stuff and state legislature.

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  • That’s exactly why this all happened so easily. Democrats were not paying attention and republicans robbed the store while we were in the bathroom 7-2-2022 1:15pm
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    • You want people to allow hatred against trans people 7-3-2022 11:57am
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• our democracy as we know it is over 7-2-2022 1:06pm +2 likes
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  • sadly troll is always so sad 7-2-2022 1:07pm +2 likes, -2 dislikes
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  • Sad there will be no more Dem cheating. 7-2-2022 1:26pm -1 dislike
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• have you seen maps of the Democratic NC gerrymandering? 7-2-2022 1:21pm
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  • IKR? 7-2-2022 1:25pm
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  • In North Carolina, Republicans want to restore a redistricting map that was drawn by the GOP-led legislature but rejected as a violation of the state constitution by...(more) 7-2-2022 1:42pm
    the state’s supreme court.

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  • Look at Mississippi’s. It’s bad. 7-2-2022 1:43pm
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