Pre-tax hhi is 350k, expecting 1 dc, would like to continue maxing out 401k - how much house can we afford?
posted February 27th, 2021 at 9:58pm in Toddler
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- $1m 2-27-2021 9:59pm
- op thank you! 2-27-2021 10:00pm
- 1.8 in next month before rates shoot up 2-27-2021 9:59pm -1 dislike
- op thanks, not sure we can find a place in a month ... 2-27-2021 10:00pm
- op: just noting no other debt (we rent now), we expect dc to be in daycare but our insurance isn't great so it will be a cost as well. tia 2-27-2021 10:01pm
- What does your insurance have to do with daycare? 2-27-2021 10:04pm
- She has a big expense 2-27-2021 10:04pm
- Why the “but”? 2-27-2021 10:05pm
- op: to elaborate some people have good insurance for dc/themselves, but we don't so i'm expecting large costs for labor and then dc health insurance 2-27-2021 10:06pm
- Why the “but”? 2-27-2021 10:05pm
- She has a big expense 2-27-2021 10:04pm
- except childcare to be more expensive than you think, especially if you will have more dc or if typical daycare hours don't work for your careers. what will your property taxes...(more) 2-27-2021 10:05pm
- op: thanks! i think we think daycare will be around 3k (or up to 3.2k from what we've seen on visits). We're hoping for a small condo (ideally property taxes 10-20k and...(more) 2-27-2021 10:07pm
- 1m will be tight. Especially if you have more than one kid. I’d stick to <750k 2-27-2021 10:08pm
- op: thanks, we're thinking 1 and done and have been targetting <1m for sure. Not seeing too many 2b/2b (my ideal) in 750k range 2-27-2021 10:09pm
- When you say “max 401k” you mean 20k for you and 20k for dh? Do you both have accts? 2-27-2021 10:13pm
- op: that's right! maxing it out is our main goal (company matching is why we'd like to max) 2-27-2021 10:14pm
- Well typically you don’t need to max out to max out company max 2-27-2021 10:15pm
- op that's true! I think that we just wanted to take the total benefit while we could 2-27-2021 10:16pm
- Ok 350000-40000 is 310000 then assume 2k per month in health ins so -24000...(more) 2-27-2021 10:19pm +1 like286000. Then max out HSA ( assuming you have one) -6000=280000 then figure 30% state local fed tax so x.7=196000 annual or 16000/month. -4000 n childcare =12000 -real estates tax of 12000annual or 1000/mos =11000
- 11000/month is what you have to spend on car ins, vacations, food, incidentals and mortgage. 2-27-2021 10:21pm
- ^^and any other expenses 2-27-2021 10:22pm
- ^^and other savings 2-27-2021 10:23pm
- op: thanks also! I really appreciate it! With dc, we just realized we have no idea how to do this and our current rental isn't set up to handle dc for more than a year at most :D 2-27-2021 10:23pm
- ^^and any other expenses 2-27-2021 10:22pm
- op thanks, so it sounds like we have 11k to play with post dc's birth -- above someone suggested keeping total housing to around 5k, so that gives us some money left for food,...(more) 2-27-2021 10:22pm
- That seems on the high end especially if you have secnd db 2-27-2021 10:24pm
- What is you visa bill now? Per month? Without a baby? 2-27-2021 10:25pm
- monthly expenses right now are rent (3100), food (1k- i know high for 2 adults), utilities/phone/internet (300), misc (100-500, e.g., toiletries, clothes) - so total of ~2k in...(more) 2-27-2021 10:29pm
- What about shoes clothes? Eating out? Vacations? 2-27-2021 10:30pm
- op: our 1k per month for food includes eating out (1-2 times per week), clothes/shoes in our 100-500$ per month). Holidays are hard but in the past we stayed in the 5000$ range...(more) 2-27-2021 10:32pm
- So 11k-2500 is 8500. Assume you want to save 1k per month (new furniture or car or water heater or roof repair) your at 7500/month. IF you think there’s any chance you’d have a...(more) 2-27-2021 10:34pm +2 likessecond child I’d keep mortgage payment and maintenance under 3500
- op: you are a math wizard and this has been so helpful! I can't thank you enough! 2-27-2021 10:38pm
- seriously the most helpful thread i have read here in a long time 2-27-2021 10:38pm
- best answer 2-27-2021 10:38pm
- So 11k-2500 is 8500. Assume you want to save 1k per month (new furniture or car or water heater or roof repair) your at 7500/month. IF you think there’s any chance you’d have a...(more) 2-27-2021 10:34pm +2 likes
- op: our 1k per month for food includes eating out (1-2 times per week), clothes/shoes in our 100-500$ per month). Holidays are hard but in the past we stayed in the 5000$ range...(more) 2-27-2021 10:32pm
- What about shoes clothes? Eating out? Vacations? 2-27-2021 10:30pm
- monthly expenses right now are rent (3100), food (1k- i know high for 2 adults), utilities/phone/internet (300), misc (100-500, e.g., toiletries, clothes) - so total of ~2k in...(more) 2-27-2021 10:29pm
- 11000/month is what you have to spend on car ins, vacations, food, incidentals and mortgage. 2-27-2021 10:21pm
- Well typically you don’t need to max out to max out company max 2-27-2021 10:15pm
- op: that's right! maxing it out is our main goal (company matching is why we'd like to max) 2-27-2021 10:14pm
- When you say “max 401k” you mean 20k for you and 20k for dh? Do you both have accts? 2-27-2021 10:13pm
- op: thanks, we're thinking 1 and done and have been targetting <1m for sure. Not seeing too many 2b/2b (my ideal) in 750k range 2-27-2021 10:09pm
- 1m will be tight. Especially if you have more than one kid. I’d stick to <750k 2-27-2021 10:08pm
- op: thanks! i think we think daycare will be around 3k (or up to 3.2k from what we've seen on visits). We're hoping for a small condo (ideally property taxes 10-20k and...(more) 2-27-2021 10:07pm
- What does your insurance have to do with daycare? 2-27-2021 10:04pm
- Like $5k a month. 2-27-2021 10:03pm
- ^assuming you have another kid. That’s what we pay on a higher HHI. The maint nance and renovations and stupid things like trees that fall down are expensive 2-27-2021 10:06pm
- ^^i mean $5k taxes plus mortgage 2-27-2021 10:07pm
- ^^thats like a $1M house 2-27-2021 10:07pm
- ^^if you are one and done could be more maybe but that seems good 2-27-2021 10:10pm
- ^^where are you looking - my friends liked the bright horizons near the bottom of Greenwich and rye brook somewhere 2-27-2021 10:11pm
- op: thanks! I feel like the 600-1m range is where we'd like to stay, and if it's lower it might be less stress. We are on the UWS, so were looking at bright horizons there 2-27-2021 10:13pm
- Oh I was thinking if she is one and done the city is better!! We just left I love the city. 2-27-2021 10:17pm
- op: yes! we are really hoping to stay in nyc if we just have 1! we love it here and uws is super kid friendly 2-27-2021 10:18pm
- Oh I was thinking if she is one and done the city is better!! We just left I love the city. 2-27-2021 10:17pm
- op: thanks! I feel like the 600-1m range is where we'd like to stay, and if it's lower it might be less stress. We are on the UWS, so were looking at bright horizons there 2-27-2021 10:13pm
- ^^where are you looking - my friends liked the bright horizons near the bottom of Greenwich and rye brook somewhere 2-27-2021 10:11pm
- op: thanks, so the 5k is total (mortgage, insurance, property tax)? thanks! 2-27-2021 10:10pm
- ^^if you are one and done could be more maybe but that seems good 2-27-2021 10:10pm
- ^^thats like a $1M house 2-27-2021 10:07pm
- ^^i mean $5k taxes plus mortgage 2-27-2021 10:07pm
- ^assuming you have another kid. That’s what we pay on a higher HHI. The maint nance and renovations and stupid things like trees that fall down are expensive 2-27-2021 10:06pm
- Depends on how much down payment you have and what your childcare expenses are and if you’re stopping at one child 2-27-2021 10:03pm +2 likes
- op: thanks! great questions that we don't know to ask. Thinking downpayment of 200-250k. We expect to do daycare around 3k per month. Really appreciate your help! 2-27-2021 10:05pm
- That’s cheap for daycare. Where do you live? Will you have 2nd child? Or third. While living in this home? 2-27-2021 10:06pm
- Op: 1 and done for us. Hmm really? we saw infant daycare at 3.2k for bright horizons. 2-27-2021 10:07pm
- op: also we're in nyc, uws 2-27-2021 10:08pm
- We paid $700/wk for an infancy years ago. 2-27-2021 10:09pm
- op: that sounds about right then (we're looking at 3.2k per month) 2-27-2021 10:14pm
- We paid $700/wk for an infancy years ago. 2-27-2021 10:09pm
- Where? 2-27-2021 10:08pm
- op: we're on uws. we were thinking of doing the bright horizons on 72nd 2-27-2021 10:11pm
- op: also we're in nyc, uws 2-27-2021 10:08pm
- Op: 1 and done for us. Hmm really? we saw infant daycare at 3.2k for bright horizons. 2-27-2021 10:07pm
- That’s cheap for daycare. Where do you live? Will you have 2nd child? Or third. While living in this home? 2-27-2021 10:06pm
- op: thanks! great questions that we don't know to ask. Thinking downpayment of 200-250k. We expect to do daycare around 3k per month. Really appreciate your help! 2-27-2021 10:05pm
- What down payment do you have? That’s critical to your question 2-27-2021 10:04pm +1 like
- op: we're thinking 200-250k down! 2-27-2021 10:05pm
- Next question is how much in taxes. But you want to put down at least 20% to get the best rate and you might want to stay under a jumbo mortgage. So I’d say under $1MM but look at...(more) 2-27-2021 10:08pm
- op thanks! We were definitely aiming for <1m, though what i liked tended to be >800k 2-27-2021 10:12pm
- Well that’s definitely better. Under $1MM would be absolute Max and that depends on taxes and childcare, etc 2-27-2021 10:13pm
- op thanks! We were definitely aiming for <1m, though what i liked tended to be >800k 2-27-2021 10:12pm
- Next question is how much in taxes. But you want to put down at least 20% to get the best rate and you might want to stay under a jumbo mortgage. So I’d say under $1MM but look at...(more) 2-27-2021 10:08pm
- op: we're thinking 200-250k down! 2-27-2021 10:05pm