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  1. Toddler This post has been disliked 7 times. showUgh, what to do now that time to vote is coming. I am a Democrat but will never ever forgive Hochul for masking my toddler while bars and restaurants were open for a year. Just...(more) 10-26-2022 11:43am (24 replies)
    not vote at all? I literally cannot vote for this woman who gave my kid a facial rash and possible a speech delay. I despise her and all the other "politicians" that put children last.
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    • good grief 10-26-2022 11:43am
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    • Never forgive? 10-26-2022 11:43am
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      • Meaning I cannot vote for her. I still can't believe she forced young children learning speech to mask while bars and venues were open. She did it and I can't bring myself ot vote...(more) 10-26-2022 11:45am
        to vote for her, but I'm feeling like I likely should, since Zeldin may actually win and I'd like to support the Democrats.
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    • I’m not in NY but I am voting republican. I am tired of the bullshit 10-26-2022 11:44am
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    • the governor gave your child a speech delay??? now i've heard everything 10-26-2022 11:44am
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      • and a rash 10-26-2022 11:44am
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      • Yes she did. And you're a fucking asshole 10-26-2022 11:45am
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        • thanks. coming from you... 10-26-2022 11:46am
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      • Actually, it's pretty much impossible to even get speech therapy in NYC these days because so many toddlers (like mine) have speech delays. This year has been AMAZING without...(more) 10-26-2022 11:47am
        masks, he is actually talking at school. So yeah, I'm pretty freaking livid over last year, considering that this was purely a Hochul rule, other states did not mask young children. That's all on her. Hold my nose and vote?
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        • so why won't you all just talk to your children 10-26-2022 11:48am
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          • Yeah, kids are in daycare 9-6 for many working parents. 10-26-2022 11:50am
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    • OMG, you need a hug! 10-26-2022 11:44am
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      • And a dose of reality. 10-26-2022 11:49am
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    • Vote for Zeldin. 10-26-2022 11:45am
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    • you need to take your kids to get face cream and talk to your child. MAGA don't love medical care and talking nicely to children, we know. 10-26-2022 11:46am
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    • you are trolling because hochul wasn't even governor during the mask mandate. but there are a lot of people (myself included) who feel this way about the democrats because of...(more) 10-26-2022 11:46am
      those issues
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    • Oh sure, pave the way for Zeldin who won’t work on gun control yet thinks city dwellers are taking a taxing 2 blocks out of fear, won’t protect women’s right to have agency over...(more) 10-26-2022 11:47am
      their own body and still backs Trump.
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    • How many hours a day was your toddler in school? 10-26-2022 11:48am
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      • 8:30-6. I can't work remotely. 10-26-2022 11:52am
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    • VOTE FOR HOCHUL - IGNORE ANTI VAXX PRO COVID FAKE TROLL POSTS - VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO 10-26-2022 11:49am
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  2. Toddler Why wouldn’t a mother want to help their child with speech delay and possible spectrum disorder by getting early intervention and finding them a good school? 9-13-2022 7:11pm (45 replies)
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    • Denial 9-13-2022 7:11pm
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      • How do you convince them to help their own child? 9-13-2022 7:13pm
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        • OMG IT'S NOT YOUR KID 9-13-2022 7:15pm
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          • What is wrong with you? You keep replying the same thing over and over. Is your child in this situation? 9-13-2022 7:16pm
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            • bc you are out of your mind you this it's ok to do or say something 9-13-2022 7:17pm
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              • Ok, say nothing while this child is regressing? 9-13-2022 7:18pm
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                • IT'S NOT YOUR KID, JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP 9-13-2022 7:18pm
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                  • Get some help 9-13-2022 7:19pm
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                • while I think this post is troll bait, you cannot say anything, that's life. 9-13-2022 7:19pm
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                • you don't know anything about anyone unless it's your kid. you are not an MD, a neuropsychologist, a therapist, an OT or SLP. 9-13-2022 7:20pm
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                  • It’s a close family member. The family spends time together very regularly and everyone sees the problem and call me to pressure this person to get the child some help. I haven’t...(more) 9-13-2022 7:21pm
                    brought it up with them in over 3 years. I feel it may be too late for the child already.
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                    • lol is that your professional assessment? that's HILARIOUS 9-13-2022 7:25pm
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                    • BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I feel it may be too late 9-13-2022 7:27pm
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            • Oh, the big 'ol flip the post on the OR! 9-13-2022 7:17pm
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    • Denial 9-13-2022 7:12pm
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      • What can one do to help them see this? 9-13-2022 7:14pm
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        • OMG IT'S NOT YOUR KID! 9-13-2022 7:15pm
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    • Denial and fear 9-13-2022 7:12pm
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      • Can you please expand on the fear part? 9-13-2022 7:15pm
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        • you def don't have kids 9-13-2022 7:15pm
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        • Once you admit that your kid has lifelong special needs, you will most likely fear for their future forget...(more) 9-13-2022 7:20pm
          Forever
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          • Thanks for being levelheaded about this. It feels like it may be too late to help the child because they have regressed so much. It’s such a shame. Would you see this as a form of...(more) 9-13-2022 7:23pm
            neglect or abuse?
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            • np you are out of line and out of your fucking mind 9-13-2022 7:37pm
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    • Who ate you talking about? 9-13-2022 7:12pm
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      • A person close to me 9-13-2022 7:12pm
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    • sometimes they don't see what we see and are just hopeful for the best. 9-13-2022 7:12pm
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      • In the meantime, the child is falling further and further behind. So how can I help that child? 9-13-2022 7:14pm
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        • OMG IT'S NOT YOUR KID! 9-13-2022 7:15pm
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        • you can't be serious with this. do you have kids? 9-13-2022 7:15pm
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          • Yes, 3. It is very obvious. It’s family so I am concerned 9-13-2022 7:15pm
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            • no, you don't. 9-13-2022 7:16pm
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            • then you should know not to say or do anything. wtf is wrong with you 9-13-2022 7:16pm
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            • wtf makes you thnk you have any right to bring this up? 9-13-2022 7:18pm
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        • absolutely nothing. MYOB 9-13-2022 7:16pm
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    • sigh. again with you? is it SIL this time? neighbor? mom you know? 9-13-2022 7:12pm
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      • Why so interested? This is my first question on here about this topic? 9-13-2022 7:13pm
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        • I'm not interested in anything you post 9-13-2022 7:15pm
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          • Yet here you are replying 9-13-2022 7:17pm
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            • LOL tell me you're a troll without telling me you're a troll 9-13-2022 7:17pm
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              • Get some help 9-13-2022 7:18pm
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    • Personality disorder 9-13-2022 7:19pm
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      • no, that's OP 9-13-2022 7:19pm
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      • It’s a family member so I suspect this but never been diagnosed. This person thinks they known everything and refuse behavioral help as well. 9-13-2022 7:20pm
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        • LOL @ 'I suspect'. that's hilarious 9-13-2022 7:21pm
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        • ugh, such a troll 9-13-2022 7:21pm
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  3. Toddler This post has been disliked 4 times. showA couple i know apparently have a 2 yo with speech delay, and the mom is switching to part-time work (from full-time) and dad is switching to a 100% remote job to spend more time...(more) 2-9-2022 8:16pm (40 replies)
    with DC to help improve his speech. do you think that will help significantly?
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    • It could. MYOB. 2-9-2022 8:16pm
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    • Half of all 2 year olds in the world have a speech delay these days. 2-9-2022 8:16pm
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      • why? because of covid? 2-9-2022 8:17pm
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        • yes 2-9-2022 8:17pm
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        • No, because language development is variable at age due to maturation differences across kids (researcher below) 2-9-2022 8:18pm
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    • As a language acquisition researcher, yes. 2-9-2022 8:17pm
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      • ^it certainly won't hurt, and 2yos are very cute. There is a very strong correlation between time spent with adults and few to no other kids and early acquisition. 2-9-2022 8:18pm
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        • Np ok, but—this 2yo was already spending time w adults, come on. 2yos are always with adults!! 2-9-2022 8:20pm
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          • Adults and few to no other kids. There are different categories of social partners with different correlations with vocab. 2-9-2022 8:21pm
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            • ^not to say that kids in daycare settings don't develop language-it can be helpful in many ways, but it is a very different situation, and depending on the nature of the delay...(more) 2-9-2022 8:22pm
              it could help.
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              • Bullshit. Signed, European. 2-9-2022 8:23pm
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                • I publish on this, so argue with the journals and other researchers. 2-9-2022 8:24pm
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                  • Lots of bullshit is published. 2-9-2022 8:24pm
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                    • That's your argument? 2-9-2022 8:25pm
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                      • You really think euro countries with extensive day care systems are worse for speech-delayed kids? Really? Shut the fuck up. 2-9-2022 8:26pm
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                        • NOBODY IS SAYING THIS. 2-9-2022 8:28pm
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                          • ^the conversation is about a child with special needs 2-9-2022 8:28pm
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                            • ^and the european day care systems are not the same as in the US, which is why people all across the world travel to Reggio Emilia Italy. 2-9-2022 8:29pm
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                              • Read your own damn responses, ffs. “It’s not that kids in day care don’t develop skills, but, it’s DIFFERENT.” Wink wink. 2-9-2022 8:30pm
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                            • Speech delays are. Dry common and at 2, don’t necessarily denote special needs! 2-9-2022 8:33pm
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                          • You are either not actually a professional in this field, or a really substandard one. 2-9-2022 8:29pm
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          • there's a difference between dedicated one on one time vs in a room full of toddlers and "supervision" in the sense that the kid won't get hurt but is not dedicated interaction 2-9-2022 8:21pm
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            • That’s bullshit with an American bias. Signed, went to large-group subsidized day care for extended days from a very early age. 2-9-2022 8:22pm
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              • This has NOTHING to do with you. And it is not an "American bias" when we are talking about kids with delays--NOT normative development. I walked earlier than my dh, who was born...(more) 2-9-2022 8:24pm
                with a congenital leg issue.
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                • ^this is about children who do not fall within normative ranges. Diagnosed delays/disabilities. 2-9-2022 8:25pm
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              • American bias against day care runs very deep. Np, also from a foreign country 2-9-2022 8:25pm
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                • This has nothing to do with daycare. I'm also a kid of immigrants and I am pro-daycare. We are talking about non-normative development. 2-9-2022 8:26pm
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                  • You’re the one who brought up day care. 2-9-2022 8:31pm
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    • who knows, 2 is young! 2-9-2022 8:17pm
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    • depends 2-9-2022 8:17pm
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    • holy nosey nelly 2-9-2022 8:18pm
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    • Do I think so? No. But I also think time together as a family is always a good thing, soÖ 2-9-2022 8:18pm
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    • depends what the alternative was. if this will be more time speaking with adults, yes. if baby was already getting that from a high quality childcare provider, it doesn't make a...(more) 2-9-2022 8:19pm
      difference that it's mom and dad.
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      • I love this “high quality” business. I was looked after by my grandma who had a limited education and spoke no English and guess what—was precociously verbal 2-9-2022 8:21pm
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        • This has nothing to do with the situation described by the OP. 2-9-2022 8:22pm
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          • ^delays are not typically caused by the environment. They are an individual issue. However, the environment can help or hinder. This is not normative development. 2-9-2022 8:23pm
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    • good parents, hope it helps 2-9-2022 8:20pm
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    • It could. And you have a window to really make an impact. If you can take time to help and focus on it, why not? 2-9-2022 8:22pm
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  4. Toddler Two year old is speech delayed, I'm depressed about it. Any speech delay success stories to cheer me up? 4-4-2021 10:20pm (67 replies)
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    • i can tell you that my speech impediment dd is in a top 25 college. does that help? 4-4-2021 10:21pm
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      • -- she can't pronounce r despite years of therapy 4-4-2021 10:22pm
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      • yes! what was her treatment/therapy process like? 4-4-2021 10:22pm
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        • she had many years of speech therapy both private and in her public school through 8th grade. it made a difference but she still has a problem with it. i was in a store today with...(more) 4-4-2021 10:23pm
          her and she asked for help with shirts and the store clerk thought she said shorts. she's 19 and in college.
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    • get her support. It will be ok 4-4-2021 10:21pm
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      • it's my ds. I started the EI process but no eval scheduled yet. However he seems very delayed by the info online and compared to my other dc. I just kept thinking he would catch...(more) 4-4-2021 10:23pm
        up
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        • Does he understand language? 4-4-2021 10:24pm
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      • dd had mild/moderate language processing. years of speech therapy paid off. great student now. 4-4-2021 10:23pm
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        • ^^btw, EI was only moderately helpful; got a language pathologist thru preschool 4-4-2021 10:24pm
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          • op: I'm debating going private, the EI people I've talked to don't inspire confidence. 4-4-2021 10:27pm
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    • The young poet at the inauguration, Amanda something? She had a bunch of speech issues all the way into HS 4-4-2021 10:22pm
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    • Yes! My youngest didn’t say anything at all until he was two. By three, he spoke but it was so unclear. And now he’s seven and a total chatterbox. His reading level and spelling...(more) 4-4-2021 10:22pm
      isatleast third grade. So, he was just biding his time.
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      • nothing at all? my ds says a few one syllable words. "out" "da" for dad etc. But struggles to imitate words. Also will learn a word and then not use it again. For a while he was...(more) 4-4-2021 10:26pm
        saying "weh mote" (where remote) when he wanted TV. but now doesn't even seem to know what a remote is. he's had about the same number of words for over a year but doesn't 'keep' them and only the family even knows he's saying a word. He babbles a lot. Seems to understand a lot of what we say but that might be a bit delayed too.
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        • Np does he understand things like - where is your nose? Where is the cow? Etc.? 4-4-2021 10:28pm
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          • yes. definitely 4-4-2021 10:29pm
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            • Okay great! You’re doing the right thing getting him evaluated. EI can be hit or miss also recommend seeing someone private if you can. 4-4-2021 10:30pm
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            • ^my older dc was very advanced in everything so I feel like I don't have a good feel for what is normal. But he failed his development quiz at 2 yo checkup and doesn't use 2 word...(more) 4-4-2021 10:30pm
              phrases or have 50 words which seem to be milestones he should be meeting. He's very related so i am not worried about autism. Plays normally etc
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    • ds didn't speak more than a few words until almost 3. was evaluated and was advised he was fine. he understood language. didn't appear to have any cognitive deficiencies. he is...(more) 4-4-2021 10:22pm
      top of his class in h.s.
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    • My son didn’t talk until age 4. Turns out he is a genius especially w math 4-4-2021 10:23pm
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    • My speech delayed toddler turned into an overly talkative middle schooler 4-4-2021 10:23pm
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    • My ds had fewer than 10 words at age 2 and communicated by dragging us around and pointing. Now he is 18 and headed off to college. He has speech therapy for a short time and...(more) 4-4-2021 10:24pm
      Caught up quickly, it was all play based.
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      • do you think it was definitely the therapy that did it or do you think he would have caught up anyway? 4-4-2021 10:33pm
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        • I truly think he would have caught up anyway. 4-4-2021 10:39pm
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    • I knew a few kids like this and they all were fine by 1st grade 4-4-2021 10:24pm
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    • yes, 2 dcs, started therapy as toddlers, HS now and you'd never know 4-4-2021 10:25pm
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    • This post has been disliked 5 times. showThis post has been deleted. 4-4-2021 10:26pm
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      • why would you post this? 4-4-2021 10:26pm
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          • Speech pathologist here and you are nuts. 4-4-2021 10:28pm
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      • Aren’t you a ray of sunshine 4-4-2021 10:26pm
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      • this is bullshit 4-4-2021 10:27pm
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          • you are being an asshole 4-4-2021 10:29pm
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    • This post has been disliked 6 times. showThis post has been deleted. 4-4-2021 10:26pm
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    • SLP here--just two or closer to 3? 4-4-2021 10:27pm
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      • just 2. 4-4-2021 10:28pm
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        • How is receptive language? Any sounds? Are you using signs to help convey wants/needs? 4-4-2021 10:29pm
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          • he only has one sign, the sign for "more". we should work harder on that. his receptive is ok and he can follow one step directions but not two step 4-4-2021 10:31pm
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            • I would add "all done." You can communicate a lot with just those two signs....(more) 4-4-2021 10:33pm
              • Also, how many words? 4-4-2021 10:34pm
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                • maybe 20 but they are all one syllable approximations of words, very few are intelligible to anyone other than his parents 4-4-2021 10:35pm
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                  • Hmm, at just two I don't think that is really a red flag. Therapy at this age is just play therapy. 4-4-2021 10:37pm
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                    • they are only doing zoom therapy with EI right now which to me is crazy, how will that work with a 2 yo? he will also be eval'd by zoom. sigh 4-4-2021 10:38pm
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                      • Teletherapy at that age is a complete waste. But I have been doing mainly parent education for a few sessions. Why not in person? 4-4-2021 10:41pm
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                        • I don't know but it is just not an option right now with my county's EI. I have the info for a private speech therapist so I'm going to look into that but I will only do it if...(more) 4-4-2021 10:42pm
                          it's in person.
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                      • I do outpatient in a hospital--we are seeing in person if the kid can wear a mask. 4-4-2021 10:42pm
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                        • op: my kid won't wear a mask plus don't they need to see their face? 4-4-2021 10:43pm
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                          • Of course he will--you have to work on it. I work with autistic kids that can do it. 4-4-2021 10:46pm
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                            • ^^he wears shoes, he can be taught to wear a mask. 4-4-2021 10:47pm
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                            • how to get a 2 yo to wear it? he just yanks it off within seconds. I'd have to glue it to his face 4-4-2021 10:48pm
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                              • So you don't take him out anywhere? 4-4-2021 10:50pm
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                              • The same way you get them to do anything--rewards. Make a game of it--start with 5 minutes-give m and ms or something. 4-4-2021 10:51pm
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                          • At this point they are working on language vs. speech so not essential. 4-4-2021 10:47pm
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                  • ^and he only says a few words spontaneously. the other ones he will repeat and we know he knows what they mean but he seems to really struggle physically to make coherent sounds...(more) 4-4-2021 10:37pm
                    and prefers to scream and point (etc) - we try and make him say something before we give him what he wants, etc but it just doesn't come easy to him.
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                    • Honestly, I do not recommend therapy for kids like this until they are closer to 2.5. I give the parents things to work on. 4-4-2021 10:39pm
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                      • do you have any suggestions? I am trying everything I can find online. my older dc was talking like a 5 yo at this age. I just went back and looked at videos to confirm. so maybe...(more) 4-4-2021 10:42pm
                        ds seems more delayed compared to that. but ped was quite concerned. he didn't meet any of the language milestones her questionnaire asked about. he didn't meet them at 18 mo either but I thought he would catch up. he seems normally intelligent otherwise, good gross and fine motor skills.
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                        • Honestly? Talk all the time. He says "ball", you say "Here's the blue ball." You are getting his clothes out, you say "Here's your green shorts." Sit and pl...(more) 4-4-2021 10:45pm
                          etc. There is typically a language explosion between 2.5-3. I would not stress.
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                          • we totally do that - I read the Hanen tips above for kids who are not talking and I do the thing with the song (pausing before high points so he can take a 'turn') too! We are a...(more) 4-4-2021 10:47pm
                            very verbal family. I do think he'll be ok but it hit me this week that he really is "behind" and I don't quite know what the best course of action is. This thread was helpful though. Thank you.
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                            • I have done this for 30 years--some kids just take their time. If he was cloeer to 3 I would worry more, but just keep at it . 4-4-2021 10:49pm
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              • thank you!! we have done "all done" with him for a long time, he hasn't picked it up. but maybe I'm not being as consistent as I think. 4-4-2021 10:35pm
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    • mine had dyspraxia of speech..stutters now. But he's also gifted and really fucking smart with an excellent memory. And I used look at his 2 year old and pray that he wasn't...(more) 4-4-2021 10:35pm
      developmentally delayed.
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    • One of the smartest people I know didn't speak before 2.5 4-4-2021 11:30pm
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  5. Toddler Ds was eval'd for speech delay and somehow they do not think he is delayed. Almost 2 and he has very few words and they are all like "dah" for dog and "bah" for bottle. No end...(more) 1-10-2021 9:20am (8 replies)
    sounds and nothing more than one unclear syllable. And very, very few. Meanwhile he babbles complete gibberish. He is at the same basic level of speech as he was almost a year ago. When do I go for another eval? It was through EI, I guess I could try to find another ST. Covid makes it difficult. Seeing as the professionals were not worried about him, would you seek out therapies now or wait until summer when we might be vax'd and therapists seeing people in person?
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    • Call EI back. As he gets older, the cutoffs change for qualifying for services. 1-10-2021 9:21am
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      • It hasn't been that long, eval was in fall 1-10-2021 9:22am
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        • Wait until he hits 2 1-10-2021 9:23am
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    • I'm not giving medical advice but DS also kept us waiting until he was about 2. Then full sentences. So wait a bit, assuming his hearing is OK. 1-10-2021 9:24am
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      • he's had hearing tested, so I guess I will just wait until 2. his older sister was speaking in clear full sentences by this point so it's hard not to be worried. the ped was like...(more) 1-10-2021 9:26am
        "make sure you talk to him and read to him a lot " -we talk and read to him constantly.
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        • Girls are faster and your ped seems sensible. 1-10-2021 9:27am
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    • My ds barely qualified. He had fewer than 10 words at age 2 and could effectively communicate by pointing, dragging us, etc. 1-10-2021 9:27am
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    • You can always do private services if you need to, but I'd wait until 2. 1-10-2021 9:35am
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  6. Toddler Anyone have a toddler with a speech delay? Did they catch up? 11-23-2020 1:21am (1 reply)
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    • Absolutely. Evaluate early. Have speech therapy at least 3 x a week if not more...(more) 11-23-2020 6:21am
      The most important factor is to jump on it early.
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  7. Toddler Should I suggest my friend take her kids for a speech eval? She has 22 month old twins with no words. I want to suggest it kindly, but also am biased because I have a kid with a...(more) 9-28-2020 10:52am (24 replies)
    speech delay and tend to MYOB with other people's kids.
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    • But out. She knows. 9-28-2020 10:52am
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      • ^^ butt. 9-28-2020 10:53am
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      • Yeah normally I do and have kept my mouth shut. But sort of shrugged it off like no big deal, when I think the kids would benefit from some help. 9-28-2020 10:53am
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        • They aren’t your kids. 9-28-2020 10:54am
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          • I am aware of this 9-28-2020 10:54am
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            • Then you should know to keep your mouth shut. Don’t parent other people’s kids 9-28-2020 10:55am
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              • As I said, I have not said anything. But I do think sometimes it's helpful when people see things you don't and say it in a kind way. 9-28-2020 10:56am
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    • Her stupid will mention it if there is a concern 9-28-2020 10:53am
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    • Do they point and do the 3-point gaze? If so, I'd give it time 9-28-2020 10:53am
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      • Yes I think they do and they clearly understand language 9-28-2020 10:54am
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        • Then they'll be fine. 9-28-2020 10:54am
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          • ^someone will figure out if they need therapy in the next year or so 9-28-2020 10:55am
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            • A year makes a big difference in an area like this 9-28-2020 10:58am
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              • Not if all it is is a speech delay 9-28-2020 10:58am
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                • I disagree you can make a lot of progress/difference in a year, the sooner the better 9-28-2020 10:59am
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    • She's already worried about it. You won't help. 9-28-2020 10:53am
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    • only if she asks. many people are talking to their doc about things and they dont tell their friends b/c they dont want to talk about it. people think i wasnt aware of stuff with...(more) 9-28-2020 10:53am
      my dc but it's only b/c i'm private and didnt discuss with them
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      • Yes this could be the case for sure 9-28-2020 10:54am
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      • There are some people like this, but many, many are in total denial 9-28-2020 10:54am
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    • Stay out of it 9-28-2020 10:53am
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      • I completely disagree. 9-28-2020 10:53am
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    • 2yo is the standard so you can say something but if you don’t her ped certainly will at the 2y appointment. That being said, my kid was referred to speech evaluation at 2 and...(more) 9-28-2020 10:54am
      between the doctor visit and the evaluation visit he suddenly started saying tons of words and progressed quickly to sentences and was way ahead at 3yo
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    • that depends on how close you are and IMO how sensitive she is. I might gently suggest it IF she brings up the topic and asks you for advice."What does your ped say/rec? You could...(more) 9-28-2020 10:54am
      see a speech specialist just for peace of mind." type thing.
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      • Right - we are very close and she knows my kid had a delay so I am very open on the topic. 9-28-2020 10:55am
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  8. Toddler It's really weird how kids evolved, one of mine was in EI and CPSE and CSE for ages, tons of therapy (risk of autism, severe receptive speech delay). Flas forward to almost 20yo,...(more) 8-28-2020 10:07pm (6 replies)
    and she scored in 95 percentile on ACT and is doing well in science at a prestigious college. A hopeful story for all those parents of dc with early delays/oddities
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    • early intervention is key. 8-28-2020 10:07pm
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      • I don't know. No regrets, but I've learned that dd does thing when she's good and ready, and not a second before. Later reader as well. Without a clone, I don't know. Would I take...(more) 8-28-2020 10:08pm
        the risk? Of course not
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    • that was my kid too, and well, at almost 18yo, he still grapples with many issues. 8-28-2020 10:08pm
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      • she has some social issues - ADHD/Anxiety. But is brilliant 8-28-2020 10:09pm
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    • My ds had super early EI, CPSE, CSE. He's brilliant but still really Autistic, but straight As at mainstream high school. 8-28-2020 10:08pm
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      • did he ever have social skills? that was the last intervention we dropped 8-28-2020 10:09pm
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  9. Toddler DH sent me a video of DS at age 2. He had on his computer. He had a big speech delay and had just started ST. He's 13 now, huge, no speech issues. I want the 2yr old again! 8-12-2020 4:40pm (0 replies)
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  10. Toddler My 3.5 has a speech delay but makes steady progress with therapy. It will work out right? It's hard when I hear her friends speak complicated thoughts perfectly. 8-12-2020 10:57am (15 replies)
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    • what sounds? 8-12-2020 10:57am
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      • A few sounds but also syntax and utterance length 8-12-2020 10:58am
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        • Which sounds? 8-12-2020 10:58am
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          • SH, SSsss, CH, L 8-12-2020 10:59am
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            • typical sounds , should be fine. Any difficulties with comprehension, social skills? 8-12-2020 11:00am
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              • She is super social but struggles more with conversational speech. Harder to complete 2-3 step tasks but understand well most of the time. 8-12-2020 11:01am
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                • Would not be worried about arctic at this age. Maybe at 5+ but not 3.5. 8-12-2020 11:04am
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    • yes I hada child who didn't speak at all until she was 3. She's fine now 8-12-2020 10:57am
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    • This was my kid. It worked 8-12-2020 10:58am
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    • complicated thoughts? doubt this is happening 8-12-2020 10:58am
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      • OP: Like dad can we go to Hudson Yards again one day (direct quote I swear) 8-12-2020 10:59am
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        • that is within normal limits for that age 8-12-2020 11:01am
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    • my DS had two words by 20 months. Had a severe apraxia. was in speech for 7 years. by 4 I was reminiscing about how I could go for a car ride without a constant stream of...(more) 8-12-2020 11:00am
      chatter at all time lol
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      • ^he's 14 now and I can still hear a difference in his speech but no one else notices 8-12-2020 11:01am
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      • ^also, he had a very large baby sign vocab, and was rejected from EI because "he had no receptive nor full expressive delays" 8-12-2020 11:02am
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  11. Special Needs What are some good schools in upstate NY (New Paltz, Ithaca?) for 10 yo w/ASD &ADHD...(more) 8-4-2020 10:13pm (7 replies)
    I prefer a small to midsize college town where we can rent or own a house but where there are some amenities, a running trail, and good supports for a kid with mild ASD plus sensory issues, ADHD, speech delay etc. but normal IQ. We live in NYC now and kiddo goes to a funded non public school (think of Parkside, Summit, Child, Lowell etc.). Is there anything similar upstate (like a 2-4 hour drive from NYC but in New York State)? Any districts better than others?
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    • Can it be in CT? 8-4-2020 10:16pm
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    • Anderson Center in Poughkeepsie? Noxon/Freedom Plains are fancy neighborhoods 8-4-2020 10:16pm
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      • thats for low functioning autism 8-6-2020 9:41am
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    • Westchester publics are known for their great programs for kids just like this. Do you need to be upstate? 8-4-2020 10:29pm
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      • We would prefer a small city or college town in a pretty, woodsy area more than a suburb...(more) 8-4-2020 10:41pm
        We live in NYC now and I have a job which may allow long term telework with occasional meetings in NYC. We have NYS Medicaid waiver for kiddo, which is why switching states is hard. I assume Westchester is too suburban and expensive for us, this further upstate is where we would want to go. A public school with a good special ed program (small class size and related services) would likely be ok even though we are in an approved non public now.
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        • But if there are specific school districts in Westchester maybe it would work 8-4-2020 10:42pm
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          • or: You should go where you want! Westchester isn't perfect. Northern Westchester is less suburban and has some good districts. Pleasantville is supposed to be good. Bedford gets...(more) 8-4-2020 10:57pm
            mixed reviews. I'm in S. Westchester with an ASD kid at mainstream public. But it isn't the type of place you are looking for.
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  12. Toddler Someone I know sponsored her dh, works her butt off, is the main breadwinner. Her dh works pt and refuses daycare for their 2yo who has a speech delay, says its too much $$. Df...(more) 7-20-2020 4:08pm (7 replies)
    bought house after she sold her apartment, the new dh brought nothing into the marriage, contributes nothing. She wants out but lawyer says she will owe him alimony, half of her assets, may be dinged as she sponsored him to live in the US plus things may go sideways in terms of custody as he has always been the main caregiver. What a clusterfuck. Should she seek advise elsewhere or is this all pretty cut and dry?
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    • that's right. but why wold she want to hurt the father of her children? 7-20-2020 4:11pm
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    • taht toally sucks & sounsd like he knew what he was doing 7-20-2020 4:11pm
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    • He prefers to watch the toddler himself instead of sending to day care? 7-20-2020 4:11pm
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      • so did i as a mother. yo guys would be all over this in a different way if the mom had stayed home/. 7-20-2020 4:12pm
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    • What state? 7-20-2020 4:11pm
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      • She will pay alimony regardless 7-20-2020 4:12pm
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    • It sounds like it will be difficult to get out easily. It sounds that maybe it is a post that intentionally reversed genders but in any case, if you not US bprn it is harder to...(more) 7-20-2020 4:16pm
      get up to speed and contribute equally
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  13. Toddler My two year old has speech delay. His sessions have gone virtual, but he gets so many more sessions. It's really neat to hear his vocabulary explode. 4-3-2020 3:35pm (5 replies)
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    • How does a 2 yo have a speech delay? Lots of kids are late talkers. 4-3-2020 3:46pm
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      • Early intervention is only for kids under three. 4-3-2020 3:57pm
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      • i'm going to say the professionals know more than you do 4-3-2020 3:58pm
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      • My 2yo didn't speak any words at all until he started speech therapy. That's one example. 4-3-2020 8:22pm
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    • My dc didn’t start talking until he was two, I was a little worried- but definitely was not delayed- he is super quick verbal and witty - 4-3-2020 3:59pm
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  14. Special Needs Am a speech pathologist working with a family who is very resistant to an ASD diagnosis. They have been told several times that their ds exhibits signs, red flags, etc. but...(more) 10-21-2019 10:07pm (30 replies)
    they either discontinue therapy or insist he just has a speech delay. I'm now working with this family and they ask me at EVERY session whether I think he has autism. If you were this parent, what would you want from me? I've dodged the question twice but I don't think it's right or ethical to continue to do so. When they ask I just tell them that right now let's focus on improving social communication, we'd be doing the same intervention regardless of the label, etc etc. but eventually I'm going to have to give them my professional opinion.
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    • How old is he? 10-21-2019 10:08pm
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      • 3.5 10-21-2019 10:09pm
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        • Why don’t you tell her to see a developmental ped? 10-21-2019 10:09pm
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          • she's resisted this referral or an autism evaluation (which our district can easily do and has asked to do) several times 10-21-2019 10:10pm
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            • That must be very hard. I’m sorry for you, the parent, and the kid. 10-21-2019 10:11pm
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              • It will ultimately be ok. They are good, responsive parents and he's getting social language intervention. He's not a candidate for ABA right now due to some other health issues,...(more) 10-21-2019 10:16pm
                so really they're doing all they can do, even if they resist the label.
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          • that's my point. she doesn't want to have him tested and wants me to reassure her, but I can't. at the same time I want to keep the relationship and dialogue open so we can...(more) 10-21-2019 10:11pm
            eventually get there.
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            • Np you definitely shouldn’t reassure her. It is in his best interest to be tested. You can tell her that. 10-21-2019 10:14pm
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              • That's something good I can say. Thank you. I've just never met a parent this rigid before. 10-21-2019 10:15pm
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    • What do you think? What are his symptoms? 10-21-2019 10:09pm
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      • very little joint attention or reciprocal play/conversational exchanges, little sense of social boundaries, flapping, sensory, tantrums 10-21-2019 10:10pm
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      • he definitely has many characteristics 10-21-2019 10:10pm
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    • Tell them he does have some red flags for it, but you aren’t qualified to diagnose by any stretch. I think it would be fine to tell them they should seek that evaluation since...(more) 10-21-2019 10:11pm
      they obviously are concerned.
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      • they're NOT concerned! that's my point! 10-21-2019 10:12pm
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        • They are or they wouldn’t be asking you about it. 10-21-2019 10:13pm
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          • they are because they want to be told he doesn't have it...if I recommend evaluation they're going to cut off this relationship too, and he won't get any services. he'll be in...(more) 10-21-2019 10:14pm
            preschool after christmas so tempted to wait and see what feedback they get from the school that will hopefully back me up
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            • Are their ethics guidelines for your profession about this? Do you really think it is making that much of a difference to have therapy with you when he has these other issues and...(more) 10-21-2019 10:17pm
              parent in denial? Honest questions, things to consider.
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              • np - dx or no the kid needs speech therapy. op's responsibility is to provide services and recommend seeking dx's that relate to symptoms she works on, nothing more. 10-21-2019 10:23pm
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        • It sounds like they are concerned, but they can’t accept it. 10-21-2019 10:13pm
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    • You tell them that in your professional opinion only someone trained to adminsiter the ADOS can make that call. 10-21-2019 10:22pm
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    • Your professional opinion isn’t valid. You aren’t a Doctor/Psychologist. I doubt you administered a GARS and so your answer is “I focus on speech” 10-21-2019 10:27pm
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    • I think you continue with the answer that an autism dx wouldn’t change the therapy you give him. This might help them accept the inevitable diagnosis. But, another tactic would be...(more) 10-21-2019 10:33pm
      Answer a question with your own question. “This is the 3rd time you’ve asked me. Is there a reason you want my opinion?”
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      • As a psychologist, my perspective on this is that people accept what is happening at their own pace. Here, the child is not in danger or neglected, and he's getting what he needs....(more) 10-22-2019 9:48am
        They will eventually be confronted by whatever it is that he needs, and they will have to add more services to help him. But in the meantime, a diagnosis doesn't really help them, and they can't handle it yet. Deflect and support them praise them for getting the help he needs right now with speech therapy. That way they have positive experiences with service providers as the move forward in this journey.
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        • In the meantime the kid's self esteem erodes. 10-22-2019 10:13am
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          • I don't think you can necessarily assume that. There are plenty of people who are not ready to accept labels but are providing the support their kid needs right now. If this was...(more) 10-22-2019 10:28am
            still going on in a year from now, I'd worry. This is a process and they may be very close to getting there- it sounds like they are to me.
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            • A three year old likely can’t grasp the concept of an autism diagnosis so how does this affect self esteem? 10-22-2019 12:06pm
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          • Why is his self esteem being affected. He’s getting therapy 10-22-2019 8:41pm
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    • I would be blunt "frankly you should WANT this label initially to get more services and insurance cover. I see enough here to warrant - IMO - a forma eval. Nothing to be...(more) 10-22-2019 8:09pm
      afraid of" ..
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    • My best friend and her dh went through this. I knew their kid was autistic at 2yo... it was very clear without a medical background. They were in denial and I didn't push. When he...(more) 10-22-2019 8:44pm
      got to Kindergarten (public school) the school insisted on testing him. They finally got a neuropsych exam and found out. They weren't ready and you can push it if they aren't ready. My suggestion is that you tell him that if they want to know for sure, to get a neuropsych exam and trust those results. If they have already had the exam but are reluctant to accept it, tell them that they should trust the results.
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  15. Special Needs Toddler My 4 (almost 5) yo is having a really tough time. He's pretty explosive at home. If he doesn't get his way he instantly cries and yells I hate everyone. He recovers quick but...(more) 10-15-2019 9:59am (12 replies)
    his reaction is instantaneous and so extreme. This isn't happening at school but he is very impulsive there. Smacks other kids, throws things. It's like he acts without thinking- all the time. I know teachers are frustrated by this. He also has a speech delay so I think part of this is that he acts out instead of speaking out... but these things don't always happen when he's upset. Sometimes it just seems like he's looking for trouble. He loves to do everything he's not supposed to do. SO, help me out mamas. I know he needs further evaluation. Pediatric neurologist? Neuropsychologist? Developmental pediatrician? It's all so confusing.
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    • Structure, structure structure, and follow through. To start 10-15-2019 10:04am
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      • Clear directives 10-15-2019 10:04am
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        • op: Yes, we're on it with this. His class is very very structures and I'm providing structure at home. He resists; he wants to do what he wants and can easily throw a tantrum...(more) 10-15-2019 10:06am
          when I tell him no to certain things.
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          • Minimize the no’s when the structures are in place. Also trade, reward and pay for good attempts. Everything but firm gentle structure 10-15-2019 10:08am
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            • But Always .... 10-15-2019 10:08am
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    • This was my dd from ages 0-10. It was anxiety, we finally figured out. She went through the day with a very rigid idea of how things were supposed to go, and anytime things...(more) 10-15-2019 8:11pm
      deviated by .00001%, she flipped out. Maturity and meds have transformed her into a different person.
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      • Ditto, in our case play therapy was helpful. Older dc are able to do cbt which isn’t thentx if choicen for a younger dc. 10-15-2019 8:16pm
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        • OR: Ross greene’s The Explosive Child was a good resource too 10-15-2019 8:22pm
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    • I’d see an OT. You’ll get good advice & theyll tell you if you need full neuropsych. Don’t wait. 10-16-2019 6:24pm
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    • What does SLP say 10-16-2019 6:25pm
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    • You need a full evaluation for sure. This isn't just a speech delay, obviously. Neuropsychologist or developmental pediatrician. 10-17-2019 8:35pm
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  16. Toddler My 4 (almost 5) yo is having a really tough time. He's pretty explosive at home. If he doesn't get his way he instantly cries and yells I hate everyone. He recovers quick but...(more) 10-15-2019 9:59am (25 replies)
    his reaction is instantaneous and so extreme. This isn't happening at school but he is very impulsive there. Smacks other kids, throws things. It's like he acts without thinking- all the time. I know teachers are frustrated by this. He also has a speech delay so I think part of this is that he acts out instead of speaking out... but these things don't always happen when he's upset. Sometimes it just seems like he's looking for trouble. He loves to do everything he's not supposed to do. SO, help me out mamas. I know he needs further evaluation. Pediatric neurologist? Neuropsychologist? Developmental pediatrician? It's all so confusing.
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    • Start with your ped and go from there 10-15-2019 10:00am
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    • I feel for you. My just turned 5 yo is SO difficult. It's like he just looks for things to whine and complain about. He's not explosive but the whining is unreal. His own...(more) 10-15-2019 10:00am
      grandmother doesn't want to come visit until he outgrows this, can't say I blame her. We've been waiting for years though.
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    • developmental ped! 10-15-2019 10:00am
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    • is there anything going on at home that he may be reacting to? does he get enough sleep? exercise? are there any healthy/dietary issues? 10-15-2019 10:01am
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      • ^the fucking 4s were really hard with my ds too and now at 9 he has really turned a corner 10-15-2019 10:01am
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    • He is a little kid. Also, how much time does he spend on screens? Does he get enough outdoor play? 10-15-2019 10:01am
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      • op: He doesn't get technology except for some TV when he first wakes up and before bed. He's in school full time during the week. On weekends he's outside for hours and hours....(more) 10-15-2019 10:03am
        He's very active and loves to play. But even outside he gets nuts. He'll throw sticks, threw a rock at dh's truck, will throw dirt and stones up in the air. No real sense of this being dangerous or inappropriate and then shocked when he's corrected. He has an older brother who is his opposite- gentle, low key, really sensitive.
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        • ^^^he probably needs more sleep but if we get him in bed earlier he's up at 5 a.m. I think the school day is very long for him but he doesn't nap there. Teachers complain that...(more) 10-15-2019 10:04am
          he's noisy and active at rest time.
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        • maybe comparing them (which is of course what we do because it is all we know) is part of the problem? most of these behaviors are normal for some boys 10-15-2019 10:04am
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          • op: I hear you and I try not to compare but this isn't normal. I'm getting pulled aside every day at preschool pickup. He's a real problem there. At home his tantrums are so...(more) 10-15-2019 10:07am
            extreme he'll hit me and dh, he scratched my face the other day. He screams so loud I can't imagine what the neighbors think. Thankfully he recovers quickly. But man it's wearing on us all and we keep waiting for the phase to end but it started at 2 and he's almost 5.
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            • i hope you get some answers from the ped and i hope that it is just an issue of maturity 10-15-2019 10:10am
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          • i trust mom's instincts here, not to mention the fact that she's said that the teachers, presumably used to the gamut of 4yo behavior, are frustrated. 10-15-2019 10:07am
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            • there are unfortunately too many teachers who really struggle with normal boy behavior but i think you make a good point about instinct 10-15-2019 10:09am
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              • op: It's a class of 20 kids (which I think is too big for this age) and she has 20 years of experience so I know her concerns are justified. They're not all acting like this....(more) 10-15-2019 10:10am
                I'm thinking about searching for a preschool that's smaller where he'd get more attention but I'm not sure that exists for my needs.
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                • maybe he is not ready for school? i think we rush some kids 10-15-2019 10:11am
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                  • op: He's almost 5. He could have started kindergarten. Are you suggesting we skip preschool? 10-15-2019 10:13am
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                    • maybe? i don't think it should be 1 size fits all, maybe a half day would be better for him, some districts/schools offer flexibility, just something to consider 10-15-2019 10:15am
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                      • ^sounds like you are doing everything "right" i hope you are not beating yourself up 10-15-2019 10:16am
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                      • op: 10-15-2019 10:18am
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                        • ^^^I need him in school because I work and I think if he were home all day with a nanny then kindergarten next year would be a disaster. I think the structure of school is...(more) 10-15-2019 10:19am
                          important to get him prepared. I'm also worried about his readiness skills. I do beat myself up but mostly I just want to find a solution. Anything that will work for him.
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        • There should be no tv before bed. Also, he needs fresh air after school, not just on weekends. Nap for an almost 5yo should not be mandatory. 10-15-2019 10:09am
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          • op: He's in school from 8-4 and we usually go right to the playground and pickup. He also gets playground time twice during the school day. He's wiped out when we get home so I...(more) 10-15-2019 10:12am
            let him chill out at home while I make dinner. He's super hands on and likes play doh, kinetic sand, painting, while I'm in the kitchen. Bed time is just a show after dinner. Before the bed time routine of bath, teeth, and books. How many books he gets depends on his behavior getting ready for bed. I hate to take books away because they're such a positive thing but if he's resisting getting into pajamas or brushing teeth and being belligerant he doesn't get as many as he wants.
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    • At that age, with similar challenges, play therapy helped my ds immensely. Like night and day. I’m not even sure how it works but he met weekly with this therapist and they...(more) 10-15-2019 10:04am
      played and he just really blossomed and improved. GL!
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      • op: I'll ask ped about this. TY. 10-15-2019 10:07am
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    • On the bright side the kids I’ve known who behaved similar at that age grew up and out of it. One is the nicest teenager I’ve met. I’m going through this at 3. The recovery time...(more) 10-15-2019 8:01pm
      is a key factor. If he bounces back in a reasonable time- 3-5 minutes, it’s a phase.
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  17. Special Needs I have a 5yo who has some spectrumy behaviors -- speech delay, repeating words, perseveration on trains and maps, often awkward socially. But ASD has been ruled out. While he...(more) 8-15-2019 11:52pm (10 replies)
    does have these behaviors often, he can often seem completely typical. He can be typical for a couple hours and then "spectrum out" for an hour. I don't know what to make of it. Our NP says the spectrumy stuff needs to be more dominating and more of a compulsion to be ASD. But yet it remains that he seems unusual. Is he just a "normal" kids who is quirky? Anyone else have a kid like this?
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    • Is there much rigidity? DS (14) was dx under DSM-4 and ADOS and ADI were...(more) 8-16-2019 1:15am
      Used. At the time he was VERY rigid. Now he is still spectrumy but more flexible after years of intensive social skills training. Has the
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      • Ctd. Has the sensory piece been looked at? Could be sensory-seeking and...(more) 8-16-2019 1:17am
        Those behaviors might seem spectrumy but in fact stem more from sensory issues. Good luck and hang in there! You’re doing the right thing to get an evaluation at this point.
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    • The spectrum should be pictured as someone that fades out along the edges. The exact boundary between ASD and NT is unclear at the margin. 8-16-2019 8:51am
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      • Ruled out by who? My DC was not diagnosed until age 5. Many kids are skipped if it’s not obvious 8-16-2019 8:55am
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        • Ruled out when we did our neuropsych eval at age 4. 8-16-2019 1:21pm
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      • But what does this mean as far as a diagnosis goes? 8-16-2019 1:21pm
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        • that sometimes marginal cases will be unclear and open to interpretation. An MD does their best. It's imperfect and that's ok. 8-16-2019 1:45pm
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          • But does it matter from the perspective of therapies? Right now my child gets speech, OT and PT. But if we had an ASD diagnosis perhaps he would get other therapies that could...(more) 8-16-2019 10:58pm
            be more on point? Or is that because he's the margins, the therapy is also somewhat ambiguous and we just give him whatever therapy he needs to his specific issues regardless of whether we label them ASD?
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            • Therapies are targeted at behaviors and specific delays. Not every kid with ASD gets the same speech therapy for ex. My kid with ASD has never needed PT and at different points...(more) 8-18-2019 12:00pm
              needed different areas of speech targeted. ABA is the only thing you might care about that an ASD dx usually makes easier to obtain. But your dc doesn't sound like a kid (caveat: based on on the tiny amount if info in this post) who needs ABA. It sounds more like he needs speech pragmatics and social skills. Not sure if this was helpful, but...
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    • My Language-based disability dcs can appear spectrum-ish, but it's SLD in written expression and reading, language disorder, dysgraphia, APD, ADHD. 8-16-2019 4:07pm
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  18. Toddler Does anyone have a kid with a speech delay who outgrew it and didn't struggle too much in school? DD is 2.5 and very hard to understand, not speaking in full sentences, often...(more) 8-12-2019 3:47pm (29 replies)
    babbles with a few real words mixed in. We're doing speech therapy and she's making progress but is far behind her peers. Her hearing is fine but seems like she might have some receptive issues. Anyone been there, how did it work out?
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    • I am a reading specialist and want you to know that she is at higher risk for reading development issues. Focus hard on getting her with phonics as early and often as possible. I...(more) 8-12-2019 3:48pm
      learned this firsthand with my own son.
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      • Thanks for weighing in. She is starting a preschool where she will have speech support 3x a week. When do kids start phonics, around 5? 8-12-2019 3:50pm
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        • Yes, so you should start at 4. 8-12-2019 3:53pm
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        • np I think speech issues are more related to cleft palate and low tone at this point than phonics 8-12-2019 3:53pm
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          • OP: Yes she can be really off with pronunciation. For example she says 'raisins' like 'meenees' but says other things like 'you're welcome' perfectly. 8-12-2019 3:56pm
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            • example of nasal emission 8-12-2019 3:57pm
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              • Really? Can you tell me more? That's not how the speech therapist explained it to me. 8-12-2019 3:58pm
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                • how did the speech therapist explain it to you? 8-12-2019 3:59pm
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                  • She made it seem like because she say the "p" sound pretty well and doesn't have hypernasality that it's not nasal emission. 8-12-2019 4:01pm
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                    • what did she bring up hypernasality? 8-12-2019 4:04pm
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                      • Because you talk about it with cleft kids. 8-12-2019 4:05pm
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                • What was her follow up after surgery? 8-12-2019 4:01pm
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                  • Not much to be honest. We saw them 6 months later and have been in touch but have not had a thorough follow-up. 8-12-2019 4:02pm
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                • sounds like hyper nasality secondary to velopharyngeal incompetency 8-12-2019 4:02pm
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                  • OP: Okay I am going to schedule a follow-up, you guys are making me think this is a bigger issue than I thought. 8-12-2019 4:05pm
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                    • make an appointment with an ENT 8-12-2019 4:05pm
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              • OP: Are you the reading specialist? Can you tell me more about why you think this is the issue. She doesn't seem to breathe out through her nose while talking. 8-12-2019 4:25pm
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    • My ds outgrew his delay and has no problem at all now at 15 8-12-2019 3:50pm
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    • 2.5 is still pretty young.How is her eating, oral motor skills? 8-12-2019 3:50pm
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      • She was born with a cleft palate so she is a little low tone in her mouth, does work with a straw but basically eats totally fine. 8-12-2019 3:51pm
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        • nasal emission with sounds? 8-12-2019 3:52pm
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          • No not at all 8-12-2019 3:52pm
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            • What did they do for the cleft palate? 8-12-2019 3:55pm
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              • She had surgery at 10 months. It was just soft palate so no lip/bone reconstruction luckily. 8-12-2019 3:57pm
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    • on her way to college, 4.0 student, all on her own. therapy is the best thing, she had it till 6th grade 8-12-2019 3:50pm
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    • yes about to turn 16. I held him back. September 1 deadline here and his birthday is late August. I consulted with many experienced educators and they all said same thing. 8-12-2019 3:58pm
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      • ^and the differences are not always apparent in K and 1st. It's when they get to 3/4/5 that the differences really start to be apparent. 8-12-2019 3:58pm
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    • It’s great that you are doing the speech work now. Pay close attention bc OR above is right that early speech 8-12-2019 4:29pm
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      • issues are a red flag of someo other learning differences later. Early and aggressive intervention helps immensely as opposed to playing catch up after a delay/problem plays out...(more) 8-12-2019 4:30pm
        for a year or two at school.
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  19. Special Needs 4 yo ds has a speech delay, he's unruly in his preschool class, and he's really uncoordinated. He didn't qualify for OT and the district says he doesn't need a SEIT. He has one...(more) 5-30-2019 2:22pm (9 replies)
    more year of pre-K. Just let this go and hope for a lot of growth in the next year or fight for more services?
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    • I would look for a private therapist. 5-30-2019 2:23pm
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      • op: For OT? It's all sensory stuff for him, not fine motor. I asked for summer speech and they said no to that too. Maybe I should be happy they think he's doing so great but...(more) 5-30-2019 2:24pm
        I see him compared to his peers and he's so far behind!
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        • The reason I say that is because I had two dds that needed speech therapy and wouldn't qualify for the school to give it to them. I could have fought it, but in the meantime they...(more) 5-30-2019 2:28pm
          wouldn't have been getting help. It was more important to me to help, because one of them was really bad...even I couldn't understand her. The other one was getting older and I felt like we didn't have time to waste.
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    • Please don't let this go. I would seek out a private evaluation. 5-30-2019 6:46pm
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    • I would hire private therapy 5-30-2019 6:46pm
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    • I would get a private evaluation with a developmental ped. My ds was evaluated for EI and CPSE and had variable findings for OT, Speech etc. our private evaluation always...(more) 5-30-2019 7:13pm
      indicates
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      • <<indicated he needed services. They were right, he is in a. Special Ed setting now at age 9 and thriving. All the way through we were told the evaluation didn’t indicate one...(more) 5-30-2019 7:15pm
        thing or another and then the next year it would be severe. I have no trust in school evaluations.
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        • ITA. BTDT 5-31-2019 9:29pm
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          • Agree with all. Try to get a private eval if you can....(more) 6-1-2019 5:07pm
            The school has $$ incentive to reduce services. Trust your mom gut and push like hell for services ata younger age.
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  20. Special Needs I just spoke with a representative from Lindamood-Bell at the sn camp fair in NYC. My dc has severer speech and language deficits and is a junior at Cooke Academy. The...(more) 1-26-2019 3:14pm (5 replies)
    Lindamood-Bell program is both very expensive and very intensive. Has anyone with a child with a severe speech delay found this program beneficial? Has any Cooke parent on this board used it and has it been beneficial? Has anyone gotten any reimbursement for the cost of the program and if so, how percent of the cost? TIA.
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    • ~~by reimbursement, I mean from the DOE, in connection with the annual lawsuit for tuition. 1-26-2019 3:15pm
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      • That's going to be tough. LMB should be able to answer that for you. 1-27-2019 3:11pm
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    • I suspect you'll have better luck asking at Cooke -- staff there may know of families that sent kids and could ask to pass your info along. 1-26-2019 3:44pm
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      • OP: I did email Cooke. Asking here as well. 1-26-2019 9:38pm
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  21. Toddler Anyone btdt? Almost 4 yo has a major speech delay (mostly articulation). Heís also terribly behaved. Punches, kicks if he doesnít get his way. So unruly. Iíve read the books, we...(more) 10-15-2018 6:23pm (28 replies)
    do 123 Magic with the time-outs but holy hell does he have a temper. Iím wondering if Iím missing something here.
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    • have you gone to a developmental pediatrician to look at entire picture? 10-15-2018 6:24pm
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      • Op: No, but he had a psych eval when testing for Speech. Nothing came up other than the S/L delay. 10-15-2018 6:26pm
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        • yes, you need to see a dev ped privately 10-15-2018 6:28pm
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          • Op: Curious but what other diagnosis might I expect? 10-15-2018 6:29pm
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            • the best thing that will come out of it is advice on treatment, therapy etc. sometimes you don't get answers. we did not get a diagnosis but great information/treatment, got...(more) 10-15-2018 6:30pm
              help/support in school and any therapy that the school offered on the IEP.
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    • speech delay can fuel frustration. he is in speech therapy? 10-15-2018 6:24pm
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      • Op: Yes, he is. I think he used to get frustrated and that led to acting out. Now the acting out (aggression) is like his ďgo toĒ reaction to everything. Just now he had a...(more) 10-15-2018 6:26pm
        meltdown over something that had nothing to do with not being understood.
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        • Np: itís an age where some kids really are jerked around by their emoti 10-15-2018 10:20pm
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    • he needs to learn to manage his emotions - distract, don't let it escalate. reward good behavior. ignoring will not work. 10-15-2018 6:26pm
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      • Op: I donít ignore. He goes into time out when he tantrums or hits. The problem Iím having is that he goes from 0 to 100 in a second. He just blows up. So distracting isnít...(more) 10-15-2018 6:28pm
        possible. When heís getting his way heís very pleasant but as soon as I say no to him he loses his shit.
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        • can you grab his hands and whisper to him? 10-15-2018 6:30pm
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          • Op: Iíve tried. He becomes a screaming banshee, totally unreasonable. I need to keep trying though. 10-15-2018 6:31pm
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    • how is he in preschool? 10-15-2018 6:29pm
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    • He may be angry because of his frustration in communicating. Ask your ped for recommendation to a functional behavioral specialist. This is your best bet for getting this under...(more) 10-15-2018 6:31pm
      control in a way that will last a long time. Also, my ds with serious speech issues improved not from speech therapy (articulation) but from trying to talk to Siri. Siri has been a gift no speech therapist could provide.
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      • Op: Tell me more. Alexa canít understand a word he says. He talks a lot and I know what heís trying to say but no one else does. 10-15-2018 6:32pm
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        • First, have you seen an actual oral motor specialist? One who has excessive training in oral motor, not just a speech therapist? That's helpful. I like Siri because they can...(more) 10-15-2018 6:35pm
          take the device and repeat themselves over and over. As for the FBA, you need someone who can evaluate his behavior real time and come up with actual strategies that work for the two of you. It's not so cookie cutter as 123 magic or Power of Positive Parenting.
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          • Op: How do I find an oral motor specialist? 10-15-2018 6:37pm
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            • Where are you? If you are tristate, Lori Overland in Norwalk CT is one of the best. 10-15-2018 6:40pm
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      • lol, there was no Siri when my little mushmouth began speech therapy about 17 years ago. But yesterday we watch old home movies and everyone, including the college boyfriend, was...(more) 10-15-2018 6:36pm
        amazed at how incomprehensible her speech was. I had forgotten it was that bad. Fwiw, she had low tone, a very long tongue, and a high palate. No wonder she couldnt speak clearly!
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        • Op: Interesting! How did you find all that out? 10-15-2018 6:37pm
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          • We knew she was low-tone from birth. Lots of gross motor delays. Then the speech therapist noticed the tongue/palate combo. In the middle of kindergarten, the teacher called and...(more) 10-15-2018 6:46pm
            said "Eureka! She tried to sound out 'that' and guessed it was spelled 'dat'. That means her speech is affecting her academics, and that means the DOE will pay for therapy during school!" Anyway, she is 20.5yo, and has no speech impediment!
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            • Op: He didnít walk until he was 18 months old. This must all be connected. 10-15-2018 6:51pm
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              • hey, OP. I was the person who mentioned oral motor above. My ds didn't walk until 18 mo either. Has your child been seen by a developmental pediatrician? This is something to...(more) 10-15-2018 6:53pm
                consider.
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                • Op: No he hasnít but I think itís time to do this. I just looked online and I donít see any here in the suburbs. I guess NYC? This has never been mentioned to me by his doctor,...(more) 10-15-2018 6:58pm
                  his therapists from EI or the SLP he sees now (or the CPSE committee). Should I be surprised?
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                  • nothing surprises me. where are you? 10-15-2018 6:59pm
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                    • Op: Long Island. I donít know anyone whoís gone to one. Doesnít seem to be a thing to do around here. 10-15-2018 7:02pm
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                      • The McCarton Center is one to consider. NYC. We went from CT to NYC. You don't have to go often. 10-15-2018 7:17pm
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  22. Special Needs Iíve been relieved that my 4yo DS has made a best friend at school. He has a speech delay and poor social skills and he gravitated to a child with a similar profile. Today he told...(more) 6-15-2018 11:04pm (3 replies)
    me he befriended this child because they ďhave no friends. No one wanted to play withĒ this other child. It makes me so sad but also so proud of my DS. I had no idea he even had this level of social awareness or empathy.
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    • Sometimes dc with speech delays eventually catch up and then social skills bloom. It sounds like your little guy is way ahead on empathy! 6-15-2018 11:13pm
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  23. Toddler My 2.5 year old with a speech delay said "vitamin spilled" tonight. It made me happy. 6-10-2018 12:15am (6 replies)
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    • lol...those really are big words!!! ;-) 6-10-2018 12:16am
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    • doesn't sound like a speech delay. and i had two kids in speech therapy for years 6-10-2018 12:17am
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      • If you heard the way he said it (unintelligibly "aninan peeled") you'd see what I meant. But that's nice to hear. Apparently has an expressive and articulation delay 6-10-2018 12:18am
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        • my kids despite 7 years of speech therapy can't pronounce the r sound. they sound british but are new yorkers. they can say forgetabboutit like a new yorker, though 6-10-2018 12:21am
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          • They sound cute! 6-10-2018 12:24am
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          • My 11yo dd just finally finished speech therapy for the exact same thing 6-10-2018 12:59am
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  24. Special Needs Which ongoing private schools (not SN) are good for a child with speech delay and possible executive functioning delay? Already have a list of SN schools so looking for ongoing...(more) 4-16-2018 4:56pm (20 replies)
    private schools.
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    • Stephen gaynor 4-16-2018 4:57pm
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      • that is a SN school, she asked for private ongoing, I believe. also gaynor isn't ongoing, it ends at 8th. 4-16-2018 5:00pm
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    • NYC? Age? 4-16-2018 4:57pm
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    • Is there a 504 or IEP? Why not public? 4-16-2018 4:59pm
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    • conventional wisdom is Birch and York, sometimes Dwight. York and Dwight both have programs which act as stopgaps for these kids. they cost an additional tuition. People used...(more) 4-16-2018 4:59pm
      to say Trevor, but it's really really not the case anymore at all, nor LREI. If your child really has a delay and would do well at SN school, the only ongoing schools that are remotely appropriate pre-remediation are Birch, York, and Dwight. And after your child is accepted, please be up front with them about your child's issues, to see if they really can be supported there. JMO.
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      • And York doesn't start till 6th grade 4-16-2018 5:01pm
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        • I know. she didn't say what grade she was looking for, but reading her post again, maybe she means kindergarten. hard to know. 4-16-2018 5:02pm
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      • OP here: I would be upfront about her needs even during the admissions process. DC has a lot to offer notwithstanding delay (and yes DC has IEP). With Dwight being IB, I would...(more) 4-16-2018 5:58pm
        think that would be too rigorous or traditional? Looking for a little more flexibility given DC's needs. Also can you explain what a program that acts as a stopgap means? TIA!
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        • Np: I am not an expert but I think IB is progressive rather than traditional. I donít know a lot about Dwight, but it is known for working well with kids who have LD. 4-16-2018 7:38pm
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          • Also, I would think twice about being tooooo upfront during the admissions process. Even schools that are supportive can be competitive for admissions purposes. 4-16-2018 7:39pm
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            • His. Let her get admitted or not based on her grades and scores and then discuss before you sign a contract. Also, if she is in k, there is so much time ahead of you. So much...(more) 4-16-2018 10:07pm
              Can change.
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        • if you have a K kid I would not look too far ahead, ie IB...that is high school. work on now. Also Dwight has 2 tracks, IB and non-IB, if that makes you feel better. 4-17-2018 3:22pm
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    • OP here: sorry, I meant for K. And I meant any non-SN privates - can go through 5th, 8th or 12th. Neuropsych recommended smaller classes so no public. Thanks! 4-16-2018 5:54pm
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      • Try Caedmon, Birch, Trevor, Cathedral 4-16-2018 9:55pm
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        • OP: Cathedral as in the one at St. John the Divine? 4-17-2018 6:23pm
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          • yes, bit of a stretch, but worth checking out 4-17-2018 8:39pm
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            • Definitely not Cathedral. They are not "issue" friendly at all these days. It would be a terrible fit assuming you can even get in. 4-20-2018 6:33pm
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    • OP again. And, yes NYC. For K. With IEP. 4-16-2018 6:00pm
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      • I would look at Leman downtown. I thought they seemed extremely supportive when I visited. 4-16-2018 7:43pm
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    • I say this gently, but none of them, really. Maybe Dwight and York. The mainstream privates don't want kids with issues and will counsel them out. Move to the suburbs with good...(more) 4-18-2018 11:12am
      publics and you'll be fine.
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  25. Special Needs 4-year-old Suspended from Bus...(more) 3-16-2018 5:31pm (33 replies)
    My DD attends CPELC. She has Social Communication Disorder & a speech delay. Yesterday, we had our parent-teacher conference & it went really well. It followed a great quarterly report from CPELC. Today, she was suspended from riding the school bus. DD does not do well with transitions and they have a hard time getting her on the bus.The Bus Matron does not speak English & DH does not speak Spanish & now the director of the school is going to have a translator find out if anything is happening on the bus. Note, we do not have a hard time putting her on the bus but she has a hard time getting off of it. We were attributing that to low blood sugar, as she gets motion sickness & we give her a tiny breakfast in the morning to help prevent, well, the vomit. Teacher compensates by having a snack for DD when she gets off the bus. However, the director says until she can get on the bus easily, DH is to deliver &PU DD. They gave us a storyboard to help us fix the issue.
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    • a storyboard? 3-16-2018 5:34pm
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    • if she is vomiting every single time she gets off the bus, then it is reasonable for them to ask her to not ride the bus 3-16-2018 5:35pm
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      • reading comp 3-16-2018 5:37pm
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        • it says you feed her to prevent the vomit. If she is vomiting that is an an issue. 3-16-2018 5:41pm
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          • but she says she feeds her! So she's not vomiting! 3-16-2018 5:44pm
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            • It seems to be something isn't right. She has a hard time getting off the bus. So why is the director complaining about her getting on the bus? 3-16-2018 5:47pm
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              • 4-year-old Suspended from Bus...(more) 3-16-2018 5:49pm
                She has a hard time getting off the bus when she gets to school--I suspect due to low-blood sugar and she has a hard time getting on the bus at the EOD.
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                • 4-year-old Suspended from Bus...(more) 3-16-2018 5:51pm
                  I don't know why she gives them a hard time at the end of the day. Important to note this behavior is new--two months ago she was fine. And nothing has changed that we (DH and I) are aware of.
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    • She is refusing to get off the bus, or on the bus? 3-16-2018 5:38pm
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      • 4-year-old Suspended from Bus...(more) 3-16-2018 5:45pm
        They have a hard time getting her on the bus at the end of the day. 85% of the time, we have an easy time getting her on the bus. She does't get motion sickness on the bus any more, as we feed her very little in the morning to prevent her from getting motion sickness. So the vomiting isn't the issue, the low-blood sugar that causes her to be cranky when she gets off the bus is the issue. So now they give her a snack (yogurt) when she gets off the bus.
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        • 4-year-old Suspended from Bus...(more) 3-16-2018 5:46pm
          and I don't know why she gives them a hard time at the end of the day.
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    • Seems to me that a primary requirement for a bus matron is that she should speak English. 3-16-2018 5:43pm
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      • Many of them don't 3-16-2018 5:43pm
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        • That is criminal. Honestly, someone needs to be major attention to this issue. It is a safety issue. 3-17-2018 11:55am
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      • yeah, i think this is hopeless. 3-16-2018 5:45pm
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        • 4-year-old Suspended from Bus...(more) 3-16-2018 5:53pm
          It does feel hopeless to me! but I was hoping someone would have some tips.
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          • FYI: it's easier if you post in the subject line. 3-16-2018 5:57pm
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            • thank you--I am new 3-16-2018 6:13pm
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      • At that rate of pay it's not that common. 3-16-2018 11:19pm
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    • I think that not giving your DD sufficient breakfast may be problematic. Most preK kids don't handle things well when hungry. Have you tried getting her up earlier and feeding her...(more) 3-16-2018 11:23pm
      earlier? I know the early timing sucks (we also bused to CPELC), but they can't have a kid refusing to get off (or back on) the bus every day. While in theory she is 4 and they could physically carry her on/off that is not a trauma they or you want to sign her up for. And the bus can't wait long. Is it the bus company of CPELC that is saying your DD cannot take the bus?
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    • I would start eith the Matron needs to be replaced. It is criminal to have a matron who cannot communicate with kids in their language. What if there was an accident and she had...(more) 3-17-2018 11:53am
      to give instructions to the kids, let alone communicate clearly with parents and teachers regarding the behavior and well being of SN kids. This is really outrageous. Honestly worth a call to local reporters.
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      • This is par for the course in NYC. In 6 years, we have had exactly 1 matron who spoke English well on the SN bus. These positions don't pay well. Until they do, this will...(more) 3-21-2018 1:43pm
        continue.
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    • My dc also attended cpel and also has motion sickness. We tried everything,...(more) 3-17-2018 11:04pm
      but because dc still became sick (nauseous, vomited), we parents decided ourselves that it's better to take dc ourselves, it's a subway commute. Even though your dd may not vocalize it, she may be having difficulty getting on the bus because of anxiety and stress because she knows how riding the bus makes her feel, physically. If we grownups were asked to do something on a daily basis that we know will make us sick, even 1/2 the time, we'll also be hesitant.
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    • Also, the bus has to leave by a certain time because there are many families...(more) 3-17-2018 11:13pm
      who will be waiting at certain times to pick up kids. It's difficult for families if a bus is chronically late. As for non-English speaking matrons, the truth is that the pay itself is a crime, leading to high turnover. The city (doe?) pays as little as possible to the bus companies. But the main thing I found with a kid who gets bus sick is that for dc's health, and our concern of dc possibly choking on vomit, we decided it was better to make our own arrangements to drop off & pick up dc by subway.
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      • Thanks everyone--I was able to get a partial answer...(more) 3-20-2018 12:02pm
        We wrote down our questions & concerns & had someone at CPELC translate it it into written Spanish & we sent it as a text to the bus matron. She responded in Spanish and we had that translated by Google translate.
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        • Several things are happening here...(more) 3-20-2018 12:04pm
          1) the school doesn't want to fight to get her on the bus in the afternoon
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          • 2) she goes to sleep once on the bus, so she is probably fighting to avoid going to sleep 3-20-2018 12:05pm
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            • 3) in the morning, we get her on the bus just fine but probably because of...(more) 3-20-2018 12:06pm
              low blood sugar, she climbs out of her seat and crawls under the chairs--not safe
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              • 4) communication is an issue as the bus matron should have told us right away...(more) 3-20-2018 12:08pm
                but maybe not an issue as she isn't riding the bus now
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                • Anyway, thanks for the suggestions 3-20-2018 12:09pm
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              • how would low blood sugar have her crawling out of her seat? 3-21-2018 1:44pm
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