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  1. Toddler My DH is great but cannot handle stress. Had a very sheltered easy childhood. He falls apart under stress. Suggestions? 7 hr 50 min ago (3 replies)
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    • meditation 7 hr 46 min ago
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    • what happens to him? what things stress him out the most? 7 hr 44 min ago
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    • what does he do for a living 7 hr 30 min ago
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  2. Toddler Ladies - my run tonight was outstanding. It was like I was actually a runner! 7 hr 51 min ago (9 replies)
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    • treadmill? 7 hr 50 min ago
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      • Outdoors. It was cool and cloudy. No pain or anything 7 hr 49 min ago
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    • how far? 7 hr 45 min ago
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      • 5 miles! And I only stopped for traffic lights 7 hr 45 min ago
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        • nice! 7 hr 45 min ago
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          • thanks! 7 hr 45 min ago
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          • ^i'm a "real" runner and i never do more than 3. 7 hr 44 min ago
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            • Ha! One day I hope to be like you! 7 hr 44 min ago
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    • Awesome! I'm a morning runner, 7 hr 40 min ago
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  3. Toddler I'm so sad and so tired.! 7 hr 51 min ago (0 replies)
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  4. Toddler I need a book recommendation. Something fun! 7 hr 51 min ago (1 reply)
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    • How about the new David Sedaris book? 7 hr 50 min ago
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  5. Toddler Why all the rich posts tonight? 7 hr 52 min ago (7 replies)
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    • ybm perseverates. 7 hr 51 min ago
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      • something had to happen? is this bc of camp visits? what? 7 hr 51 min ago
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        • i think all it takes is one post and then the active posters run with it. there are certain topics that will never die here, and moneymoneymoney is one of them. 7 hr 50 min ago
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        • triggered by car post 7 hr 50 min ago
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    • Someone feels inadequate 7 hr 50 min ago
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      • the rich chubby bad dresser? 7 hr 46 min ago
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    • Who knows 7 hr 50 min ago
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  6. Toddler I model good eating but my dd is getting overweight. She overeats with friends, obsesses over food. I literally do not know what to do. 7 hr 52 min ago (16 replies)
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    • teen? leave it 7 hr 51 min ago
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      • 11 7 hr 51 min ago
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        • puberty 7 hr 51 min ago
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          • She's been this way since she was a toddler. Food is everything. It worries me 7 hr 50 min ago
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            • eh, nothing you can do. she won't be a skinny minnie if not her body type 7 hr 48 min ago
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            • my 10 year old boy is like this. He can eat so much and it's all he thinks about. I try to keep him super active. 7 hr 48 min ago
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              • it is all you can do. feed him healthy food and he will be fine 7 hr 45 min ago
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    • don't have anything bad in the house 7 hr 51 min ago
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      • np how about don't call foods good or bad- call them healthy, or natural, or whatever. And keep a couple of reasonable things around in moderation to avoid the binges with friends 7 hr 50 min ago
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      • this just is abnormal and the kid will rebel whenever she can 7 hr 50 min ago
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    • i think you are maybe modeling being too careful about food. 7 hr 50 min ago
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    • unless you or dh is fat I would assume she will thin out eventually 7 hr 49 min ago
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      • dh was a very heavy kid. i have had weight issues all my life but i was only always about 10 lbs overweight 7 hr 46 min ago
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        • then it's in her genes and she won't be thin so focus on healthy eating 7 hr 40 min ago
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    • my age 10 dd is the same way. eats for comfort, bad choices, talks about french fries and junk food all the time. i say she needs...(more) 7 hr 47 min ago
      to make good choices, be active etc. but at some point i have to let her make the choices
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    • sometimes a lot of talking about "healthy eating" still creates an obsessive mindset. maybe try not talking about it, just serve healthy stuff and if she's eating a lot of...(more) 7 hr 29 min ago
      snacks, say that's enough sweets, if you're hungry try some fruit or cheese
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  7. Toddler Taylor Swift, Joe Alwyn, Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds possibly had a cocaine fuelled orgy in Rhode Island. 7 hr 52 min ago (2 replies)
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    • They're young thin and rich. Why not enjoy youth 7 hr 51 min ago
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    • The operative word being "possibly." In other news, I possibly went out with Keith Richards last night. 7 hr 40 min ago
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  8. Toddler Is the Barista phone # mom on? Did he call? 7 hr 53 min ago (2 replies)
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    • he sent a text. told me he was headed to his second job and that he can't wait to hang out, and he hoped my night was going well 7 hr 49 min ago
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      • Sounds good! 7 hr 45 min ago
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  9. Toddler Any ideas on how to teach a 9 yo boy how to calm himself down when he gets upset? 7 hr 56 min ago (15 replies)
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    • Pinterest has some excellent links 7 hr 55 min ago
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    • what upsets him? 7 hr 54 min ago
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    • breath. 10 deep breaths 7 hr 54 min ago
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    • it's usually too late by the time they are upset. avoiding stressors and role playing may be helpful. 7 hr 54 min ago
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      • Avoiding stressors? That's not realistic. He's going to get stressed out in life. He needs to learn coping skills. 7 hr 51 min ago
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        • and part of coping skills is knowing what your stressors are. for example, i know that rushing dcs out the door will get me stressed. the way i cope with this is to avoid the...(more) 7 hr 46 min ago
          problem by getting everyone started earlier. this is common sense.
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          • That's different--that's you learning to be organized and running a smooth home. A 9yo DS is going to be stressed out by friends, school, classmates, siblings. You can't expect...(more) 7 hr 44 min ago
            all of these people to avoid stressing him out. He needs to learn to cope. And I'm sorry, but sometimes you *will* have to rush out the door! They'll need to learn to cope with that, too.
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            • you have to use a little sense and intelligence. you can't avoid everything but if you see that every night your 9yo has a melt down getting ready for bed, you can avoid some of...(more) 7 hr 43 min ago
              that stress by having him brush his teeth after dinner instead of when he's overtired.
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              • This post has been deleted. 7 hr 42 min ago
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              • You know what? I'm not doing this tonight. Good luck to you. 7 hr 41 min ago
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                • avoidance doesn't have to mean giving in. 7 hr 37 min ago
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          • you moron. you have control over your life that a 9 yo does not. what a fucking moron 7 hr 33 min ago
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            • what's the difference? 7 hr 28 min ago
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        • would you feel better if it said identifying stressors? 7 hr 33 min ago
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    • mine learned mindfullness in school and it helps. They do it one their own now when they are mad, too excited or nervous. Never in a million years would i have thought they...(more) 7 hr 53 min ago
      would actually do it.
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  10. Toddler Breaking news: Taylor Swift and her boyfriend Joe Alwyn visited the Rhode Island home of Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds! 7 hr 57 min ago (9 replies)
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    • It has been a big news day but that's the biggest of them all 7 hr 56 min ago
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      • what is the small news? 7 hr 56 min ago
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        • Healthcare vote. Trump meeting the Lebanese prime minister while insulting half of Lebanon 7 hr 54 min ago
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        • McCain and the vote 7 hr 54 min ago
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    • Wow! Thanks! 7 hr 56 min ago
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    • oh wow, any more deets?!?!??!?!? 7 hr 56 min ago
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    • Probably had a cocaine fuelled orgy 7 hr 53 min ago
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    • illuminati 7 hr 41 min ago
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  11. Toddler Are the connected kids photographed more at your childs camp 7 hr 58 min ago (21 replies)
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    • yes, for sure. 7 hr 57 min ago
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    • oh brother 7 hr 56 min ago
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    • here who is in more pics at our camp: 1. very outgoing and jump in front of the camera, run up to the photographer. 2. Parents are paying their kid a dollar per pic (not kidding)...(more) 7 hr 56 min ago
      and 3. Offspring of very famous (there are only 1-2 but it is a daily montage of those kids)
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    • No photos or phone calls at my camp 7 hr 56 min ago
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      • how does camp communicate with you 7 hr 55 min ago
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        • Owl Post. 7 hr 54 min ago
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      • so then that's a no. 7 hr 55 min ago
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    • Dd's camp does very few pics during camp, and I actually think it's great 7 hr 55 min ago
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    • i would never send my kid anywhere this was even possible 7 hr 54 min ago
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      • you might be anti sleepaway, but I wouldn't discount a great camp just bc they post photos 7 hr 53 min ago
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        • No. i love sleep away camps. I mean i would never send my kid to that kind of camp; where someone would try to get photos of rich kids 7 hr 49 min ago
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          • i posted above and I never predicted it. I had no idea a celeb's kid was going (she started 2 years later) or that the photographer would take a liking 7 hr 48 min ago
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            • ^ they don't seek out rich kids who aren't famous 7 hr 48 min ago
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            • Gross 7 hr 48 min ago
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            • outliers who are drawn to work at camps of course are going to be starstruck 7 hr 46 min ago
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              • agree, and they are not outliers, just young and excited. It's not worth other parenst getting cranky over it. 7 hr 43 min ago
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    • Connected? 7 hr 54 min ago
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    • There are such kids at my children's camp 7 hr 47 min ago
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  12. Toddler The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing folks that the people who take half of their paychecks don't owe them anything. 7 hr 58 min ago (1 reply)
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    • Kaiser Soze? 7 hr 58 min ago
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  13. Toddler Gross...(more) 7 hr 59 min ago (3 replies)
    • They're all so gross 7 hr 58 min ago
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    • they are all vulgarians 7 hr 57 min ago
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    • How does anyone mate with him? 7 hr 48 min ago
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  14. Toddler All of you with your rich-people-sterotypes are hilarious. you all sound like hillbillies talking about people you've seen on television 7 hr 59 min ago (42 replies)
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    • Educate us 7 hr 59 min ago
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      • you can't tell someone's net worth by how they look 7 hr 58 min ago
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        • I was being facetious 7 hr 57 min ago
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        • yes you can, even if they are not wearing designer 7 hr 57 min ago
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          • Hillbilly 7 hr 56 min ago
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          • i promise you, you cannot 7 hr 56 min ago
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          • Then you'd be very shocked to meet my family 7 hr 55 min ago
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            • i promise you I wouldn't 7 hr 55 min ago
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    • yep 7 hr 59 min ago
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    • Thee richest person I know would be overlooked by most of you be cause she fits absolutely none of your stereotypes. 7 hr 58 min ago
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      • OP- you are most certainly not referring to me when you say "you" 7 hr 58 min ago
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        • No, I am not. 7 hr 57 min ago
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    • someone should tell my fat unfashionable rich mom that she isn't behaving correctly 7 hr 58 min ago
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      • OP - my point, exactly 7 hr 57 min ago
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        • yeah, but ref to people as "hillbillies" makes you sound uneducated 7 hr 55 min ago
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          • yeah, but that's what it sounds like 7 hr 55 min ago
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            • like what? "HA HA! Those people are POOR and DISAFFECTED! THEY don't have access to the educational opportunities other people do, therefore they don't know as much as me! LETS...(more) 7 hr 54 min ago
              LAUGH AT THEM! HA HAAAA"
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              • I'm sorry I struck a nerve. but you sound like a hillbilly. no other word to describe it. 7 hr 53 min ago
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                • i agreed with you, i just think you sound crass 7 hr 52 min ago
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                  • And I think I found the perfect descriptor. 7 hr 52 min ago
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                    • i mean, it goes w out saying that the idea that there are physical "tells" that suggest wealth is silly. of course that is silly. i just happen to think that people who use...(more) 7 hr 50 min ago
                      classist insults sound like they lack dynamic thinking skills and real world experience
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                      • yep, I struck a nerve. sorry, but I don't get into discussions with hillbillies. 7 hr 48 min ago
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                        • you...dont understand what I'm saying...do you.... 7 hr 48 min ago
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                  • ^its just such a lack in dynamic thinking skills 7 hr 51 min ago
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                    • Ah, well coming from you, I should probably stop and pay attention. LOL, nah 7 hr 49 min ago
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                      • that makes literally no sense. 7 hr 48 min ago
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    • it's fun to razz you enemies of the people. 7 hr 57 min ago
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    • swimming pools. movie stars. 7 hr 55 min ago
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    • I think the posters who think real wealth translates to straight teeth are adorable!!! 7 hr 55 min ago
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      • Bless their hearts! 7 hr 54 min ago
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    • My father is a multi millionaire and wears old shorts and t shirts. He drives a twenty year old car. You'd never know he had a time. 7 hr 54 min ago
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      • ^^^dime 7 hr 53 min ago
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      • There's someone one (with 2 YBM accounts, btw), who like to assure you she can tell. 7 hr 52 min ago
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        • How do you know she has 2 accounts, can we tell that from a post? 7 hr 50 min ago
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          • you just reveal the codes and you can see 7 hr 48 min ago
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      • my dh is like this. His shorts all have bleach stains on them and his socks have holes and he drives a 98 ford pick up truck. 7 hr 50 min ago
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    • ITA--it's strivers trying to crack a "code" that doesn't even exist-- 7 hr 52 min ago
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      • NP-like finding out which brands the truly rich buy and then buying it... 7 hr 51 min ago
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    • no person of true class would ever post or even think something like this. you are the trash. 7 hr 37 min ago
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  15. Toddler I've moved on. Dating again. Met some nice guys. BUT:...(more) 8 hr 1 min ago (2 replies)
    I'm still thinking about the guy I can't be with :(
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    • Just keep going 7 hr 58 min ago
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    • just remember..there are many people out there that you are capable of loving 7 hr 56 min ago
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  16. Toddler Trump today met with the Lebanese prime minister and said Lebanon is fighting against Hezbollah. Literally the opposite of the truth. 8 hr 2 min ago (5 replies)
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    • Trump doesn't know how the balance between the executive, legislative and judiciary works here. Do you really think he has any hope of understanding the delicate balance between...(more) 8 hr ago
      Sunni, Shiite, and Christian, in Lebanon
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    • I just dont care trump is an ass who is dumb as a bix of rocks. Healthcare is way more important than that idiot 8 hr ago
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      • And yet the left lionises McCain who helps trump ruin healthcare 7 hr 58 min ago
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        • Nope we don't actually. 7 hr 56 min ago
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        • no we don't. we just show him the respect a war hero deserves even if he's made a serious of bad mistakes in the years since that have devastating effects on large portions of the...(more) 7 hr 37 min ago
          population
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  17. Toddler What the hell? Mccain stands on the senate floor says he won't vote for the bill as it is. Votes yes for motion to proceed, then votes YES on the first amendment to repeal and...(more) 8 hr 2 min ago (2 replies)
    Tepl
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    • ^^^replace. 8 hr 2 min ago
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    • He's a fuck who will be meeting his maker soon. 8 hr 2 min ago
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  18. Toddler Do you look rich? 8 hr 3 min ago (30 replies)
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    • Yes,but I'm not. 8 hr 3 min ago
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    • no. 8 hr 3 min ago
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    • I think I look fat but someone told me today that I'm "slender". I was like ARE YOU BLIND? 8 hr 3 min ago
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      • the world is full of wealthy fat people. try to pay attention 8 hr 1 min ago
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    • no, I look boho-chic. And I'm neither :/ 8 hr 2 min ago
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    • do you? 8 hr 2 min ago
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    • My old navy and target look says no 8 hr 2 min ago
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    • sometimes in the winter i do, because all my best thrift shop finds are cold weather wear - cashmere sweaters, beautiful overcoats. 8 hr 2 min ago
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    • I have nice skin, teeth and hair, but otherwise no 8 hr 2 min ago
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    • nope - and I do a lot of shopping on Walmart.com 8 hr 2 min ago
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    • in middle america maybe not in manhattan i look homeless 8 hr 2 min ago
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    • Yes but I am 8 hr 1 min ago
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    • what makes you look rich 8 hr 1 min ago
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      • 4 figure coats and handbags 8 hr ago
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        • itda 7 hr 59 min ago
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        • Wrong. Old shoes and hand me down wool sweaters in big apartments is real rich 7 hr 59 min ago
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          • yes and ll bean and those wool slippers. 7 hr 56 min ago
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            • And slightly stringy grey bobbed hair 7 hr 54 min ago
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              • this describes every one of my mother in laws friends. They all have gray bobbed hair, carry those ll bean tote bags covered in mildew and wear all sorts of wool everywhere...(more) 7 hr 44 min ago
                and have a lab or some kind of rescue dog with a collar with nautical flags or lobsters or some other ocean motif.
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          • rich is rich, who cares if it is old or new $$$ 7 hr 54 min ago
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          • like ruth madoff? that was her outfit in the movie 7 hr 53 min ago
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      • Anorexia 7 hr 58 min ago
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    • Not according to some of ybm standards 8 hr ago
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    • No. I don't even know what that means. 7 hr 59 min ago
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    • I've been told I have rich looking hair, but I'm just lucky. Have a good cut but do nothing otherwise. 7 hr 56 min ago
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    • yes and i am. 7 hr 55 min ago
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    • I don't think so 7 hr 55 min ago
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    • Yes, but I'm not 7 hr 52 min ago
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    • No. I wear target t shirts and old navy jeans. I should probably try harder 7 hr 45 min ago
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  19. Toddler I think the account I hate dumped me. I hate them so much I have no desire to follow up. My fear is that I am wrong and will call again next week because this was the designated...(more) 8 hr 4 min ago (1 reply)
    vacation week for all their slaves.
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    • Fingers crossed they are gone for good. 7 hr 53 min ago
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  20. Toddler This post has been deleted. 8 hr 5 min ago (3 replies)
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  21. Toddler Ugh. I hate when my internet stalking doesn't turn up the info I want. 8 hr 6 min ago (10 replies)
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    • who are you stalking? 8 hr 3 min ago
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      • ^^I say if no info comes up, the person isn't who they say they are... 8 hr 3 min ago
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        • No the people are real. It's the situation I'm looking for. 8 hr 2 min ago
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          • way to be cryptic 8 hr 2 min ago
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            • Ha! Trying find out if someone took a job and/or moved. 8 hr 1 min ago
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              • Linked In? 7 hr 59 min ago
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                • Nope they can see if you check it 7 hr 59 min ago
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    • He's married 8 hr ago
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      • but I still love him 8 hr ago
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        • So? He's married. 7 hr 58 min ago
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  22. Toddler I don't like what trump-era politics is doing to me. I just saw a "fuck him, i hope he dies" post re: McCain and his healthcare vote. Normally, I would be disgusted and disliked...(more) 8 hr 7 min ago (9 replies)
    but I just looked at that post ambivalently and moved on. I did not know what to think about it! What is happening to me!
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    • McCain should disgust you. 8 hr 6 min ago
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    • he should disgust you. all of them should .they are all robbing us blind and they're here to screw us 8 hr 6 min ago
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    • I am in survival mode. I am all out of fucks to give!!!!!!!! 8 hr 6 min ago
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    • This post has been disliked 4 times. showat least you realize that you have a problem. 8 hr 4 min ago
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      • Np She's just fine! 8 hr 4 min ago
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        • there's something wrong with a lot of you here. it's not fine to go around hoping people die....(more) 7 hr 52 min ago
          it's also not so helpful if another republican senator takes his place.
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        • if that makes you proud of yourself, keep at it. 7 hr 44 min ago
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    • I unfollow people who say stuff like that 8 hr 2 min ago
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      • she's talking about this nasty angry board. 8 hr 1 min ago
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  23. Toddler Oh ffs haven't we spent enough tax dollars on thisnshit?...(more) 8 hr 8 min ago (0 replies)
  24. Toddler I love my VW Jetta and it is a stick shift and I do not care what you all think that says about me 8 hr 9 min ago (10 replies)
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    • Ok 8 hr 8 min ago
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    • it's says to me, you like to drive and love your car 8 hr 8 min ago
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    • Loved my jetta. Favorite car I've ever owned. 8 hr 8 min ago
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    • Liar 8 hr 7 min ago
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    • Why should you? You sound like a clear headed adult 8 hr 6 min ago
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    • One of my favorite cars ever. Jealous. 8 hr 6 min ago
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    • I have one too. Automatic though. 8 hr 6 min ago
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    • my mom loved driving a car with manual transmission. 8 hr 4 min ago
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    • my jetta is a standard too 8 hr 4 min ago
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    • it tell us you are $$$$ 8 hr ago
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  25. Toddler Rich women do not try to look rich, they just are. 8 hr 9 min ago (58 replies)
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    • This is true 8 hr 9 min ago
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    • if a woman looks rich, but no one sees her bank account balance, does her rich aura still exist? 8 hr 9 min ago
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    • the richest ones don't need to prove that they are rich, especially in a setting where everyone else is rich (camp visiting day comes to mind) 8 hr 8 min ago
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      • pls elaborate on your experience 8 hr 8 min ago
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        • it's a dress-down event. the ones who look like they are trying to prove something come across as silly, trying too hard -and missing the point of visiting day 8 hr 7 min ago
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          • what was this mom wearing? 8 hr 6 min ago
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            • it's a few, tall $$ shoes to trek through the dirt, tons of makeup, large diamonds etc 8 hr 5 min ago
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              • cartier or van cleef bracelets stacked from wrist to elbow 8 hr 4 min ago
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                • yes this, I mean are they trying to impress their kids? because the parents already know what they paid for camp 8 hr 3 min ago
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                  • and the cars. 8 hr 3 min ago
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                    • yes and the private schools that a lot of them go to. 8 hr 1 min ago
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                      • even clearing those hurdles does not automatically mean you are welcomed into the tribe at these camps 8 hr ago
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                        • right but that is another story. the parents who are chummy either know each other from back home, or their kids are friends, it is not because of the Hermes bag in the woods 7 hr 59 min ago
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                  • maybe that's just how they dress every day 8 hr 2 min ago
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                    • oh I'm sure, even moreso 8 hr 1 min ago
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    • This post has been disliked 3 times. showskin, teeth, hair, weight all telltale signs 8 hr 8 min ago
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      • np I know some very wealthy women who confidently let their grays grow in, I love it 8 hr 8 min ago
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        • right, but they're not using suave their hair is in nice condition and they have good haircuts. skin is clear and bright, because they can afford the dermatologist. teeth are...(more) 8 hr 4 min ago
          straight, white.
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          • lol, no 8 hr 2 min ago
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          • Lol 8 hr 1 min ago
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          • np: this is not true based on the women I know. Most of the women I know who have all this going on are simply vain, which has nothing to do with income. Many of those women with...(more) 8 hr 1 min ago
            all that going on are broke from the money they spend on that kind of upkeep.
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            • i know a lot of old money wealthy people with not great teeth. The older ladies do seem to have a uniform hairstyle - straight bob, gray a lot of the time. 7 hr 57 min ago
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          • You sound really clueless about real wealth? Or maybe you are not American and straight teeth are not prevalent? 7 hr 59 min ago
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          • i have naturally great skin (good genes) and i take good care of it without a dermatologist. also just have naturally nice hair and teeth. 7 hr 51 min ago
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      • i have great skin, teeth, and hair and am thin but i'm not loaded. 8 hr 8 min ago
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        • were your parents 8 hr 7 min ago
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          • no. i come from a highly educated UMC background but we are far from rich. 8 hr 6 min ago
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            • thats rich in america 8 hr 6 min ago
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              • i promise you i'm not rich. 8 hr 5 min ago
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              • NP keep thinking that 8 hr 4 min ago
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        • Same 8 hr 7 min ago
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        • ditto on the skin etc., and I am loaded, but I wear no jewelry, little makeup, cheap handbag and middle class car so probably no one knows 8 hr 6 min ago
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          • what handbag and why do you make this deliberate choice 8 hr 5 min ago
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            • whatever's at TJ maxx, having a status car never made sense to me, never naturally cared about accessories 8 hr 4 min ago
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            • bc she is trying not to look rich 8 hr 3 min ago
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            • bc she doesn't care about stuff like that. I am the same. Now, I do spend money on vacations, traveling, music and eating out. 7 hr 51 min ago
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              • this, same, we spend a lot on education and travel 7 hr 42 min ago
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        • Me too 8 hr 6 min ago
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      • I have great skin, teeth and hair but I'm overweight :( also have money 8 hr 6 min ago
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      • I disagree, I know a couple of really fat unattractive rich women who don't give a shit about their appearance 8 hr 6 min ago
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      • no correlation 8 hr 6 min ago
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      • This describes so many women I know and they are not rich 8 hr 5 min ago
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      • You are wrong, I know not wealthy people who have all of these and extremely wealthy people who do not 8 hr 4 min ago
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      • one of the the benefits of being rich is not worrying about keeping up appearances 8 hr 3 min ago
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      • You sound like you read about rich people in a book and have no real experience...you are totally off 8 hr 3 min ago
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    • The richest,people I know do not look rich at all 8 hr 4 min ago
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    • not true, spend tons 8 hr 4 min ago
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      • No Strivers spend all their money trying to look rich, true wealth doesn't need to 8 hr 2 min ago
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        • not true, they all spend $$$$$ on cosmetic stuff. stop kidding yourself 8 hr ago
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          • That's new money ibnhedge fund nonsense here today gone tomorrow. We are talking wealth 7 hr 55 min ago
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    • honestly a lot of rich women I know look frumpy 8 hr 4 min ago
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      • Ditto, one of the wealthiest I know shops at grocery outlet and has old wrinkly skin 8 hr 3 min ago
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      • ITA--the posters saying different are probably from a small town in Kansas and read it in a magazine 8 hr 1 min ago
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      • ita 7 hr 59 min ago
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      • I don't these these posters are American...they are sociologically clueless 7 hr 59 min ago
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    • It's shoes. You don't wear cheap shoes when you have money. I'm not talking flashy ridiculous shoes. Just well made expensive shoes. 7 hr 56 min ago
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