Romney's student loan philosophy is terrible. there are 2 ways to have a middle class in contemporary life. one is manufacuring jobs, which we don't have anymore, and second is... (more)
middle class kids getting college degrees.
posted April 24th, 2012 at 3:44pm in Toddler
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- huh? he agrees with Obama 4-24-2012 3:44pm
- no 4-24-2012 3:45pm
- Yes, it was reported today 4-24-2012 3:45pm
- he falls in with the right wing every time and House Republicans are working overtime to cut Pell grants for one million low-income students 4-24-2012 3:46pm
- who, Obama? 4-24-2012 3:47pm
- no, Mittens is a puppet of the right wing agenda and you can't trust a word he says. flip flomney 4-24-2012 3:48pm +1 like
- That's what he'll do immediately after winning the election (G-d forbid.) But what he's saying now is that he agrees with Obama. He's got an election at stake 4-24-2012 3:47pm
- yep. he is now in the transition period when he will stop courting the conservatives because he has them in the bag, and start courting the moderates. the one silver lining if he...(more) 4-24-2012 3:50pm does get elected (god forbid) is that we would actually get to see, perhaps, where he really stands on some things. so far, the only thing I'm clear on is that he is against capital gains tax and estate tax
- you are getting very tiresome declarative liberal mom. I doubt you...(more) 4-24-2012 3:53pm are paid (too stupid) but tons of volunteers (both right and left) spam chat sites.
- you are so paranoid it is funny. many people think differently than you do, cupcake 4-24-2012 3:54pm
- is that what you do? why does this even occur to you? 4-24-2012 3:54pm
- because I am an academic who teaches political science 4-24-2012 3:56pm
- ok, so what? you think real people don't care about these topics? that they don't matter to us? we can talk about them too 4-24-2012 3:57pm
- then you must know that it is common sense for a candidate to drop the extreme stances in a general election. has any candidate in recent memory NOT done this?? when candidates...(more) 4-24-2012 3:58pm don't have to debate the kuciniches and santorums of the primaries, they can focus on the moderates, which they need to win any election
- yes, remember the etch a sketch remark? Romney is a moderate. The good news is that he is actually competent. 4-24-2012 4:00pm
- wrong and wrong 4-24-2012 4:01pm
- yes, remember the etch a sketch remark? Romney is a moderate. The good news is that he is actually competent. 4-24-2012 4:00pm
- because I am an academic who teaches political science 4-24-2012 3:56pm
- this is not rocket science, nor is it a big secret, nor is it limited to republicans or democrats. in the primaries candidates have to veer to the right or the left to win the...(more) 4-24-2012 3:55pm nod. in the general election, the trick is to catch the moderates and independents. I haven't said anything overtly liberal, btw (aside from the god forbid bit, but I was simply using the other responder's sentiment). this is not partisan, it is common sense.
- ^^^the bit about the capital gains tax and the estate tax I copped from newt gingrich, btw. 4-24-2012 3:57pm
- no, sorry, you ARE declarative and resort to aspersion if people have genuine and debatable disagreements with you. 4-24-2012 3:57pm
- sorry, which part of what I am saying are you disagreeing with? you don't think obama didn't turn suddenly more centrist when he got the nomination? does any candidate of any...(more) 4-24-2012 4:01pm party not turn more centrist in the general election? stop attacking my political views (of which you don't know much) and respond to the point of my posts. candidates have to court the center to win the general election. yes or no, 'political science academic'?
- well yes, they do. I am not disagreeing with you on that point 4-24-2012 4:03pm
- then what are you attacking me for?? which part of what I said offended you? the bit about the taxes and the wavering views? Again, I got that stuff from Newt, Rick and Ron Paul!...(more) 4-24-2012 4:06pm
- ^^^and I don't see that you are trying to have a genuine debate with me. you have simply attacked me for being tiresome, declarative, liberal, stupid and spamming (???) 4-24-2012 4:04pm
- until you give something other than wild generalizations I will have a debate with you 4-24-2012 4:05pm
- what, exactly have you contributed to this thread, besides attacks on me? if you disagree that romney has solid stances on things other than the estate tax, please fill me in. I...(more) 4-24-2012 4:09pm have made generalizations (which you seem to agree with) about elections, and a few specific shots at romney. debate me, please. what, exactly do you disagree with, and why? I'm genuinely interested. but please, if you are just going to insult me again, move on.
- dot.org. Go there and preach to the choir. I have given evidence below. 4-24-2012 4:11pm
- 'evidence'? eveidence of what? I'm still not even clear what you are arguing with me about. you haven't said, other than to drop some fighting personal insults. 4-24-2012 4:14pm
- give me even a 'wild generalization'! I'll take that over the nothing you've thrown at me! 4-24-2012 4:16pm
- 'evidence'? eveidence of what? I'm still not even clear what you are arguing with me about. you haven't said, other than to drop some fighting personal insults. 4-24-2012 4:14pm
- dot.org. Go there and preach to the choir. I have given evidence below. 4-24-2012 4:11pm
- what, exactly have you contributed to this thread, besides attacks on me? if you disagree that romney has solid stances on things other than the estate tax, please fill me in. I...(more) 4-24-2012 4:09pm
- until you give something other than wild generalizations I will have a debate with you 4-24-2012 4:05pm
- well yes, they do. I am not disagreeing with you on that point 4-24-2012 4:03pm
- sorry, which part of what I am saying are you disagreeing with? you don't think obama didn't turn suddenly more centrist when he got the nomination? does any candidate of any...(more) 4-24-2012 4:01pm
- you are getting very tiresome declarative liberal mom. I doubt you...(more) 4-24-2012 3:53pm
- yep. he is now in the transition period when he will stop courting the conservatives because he has them in the bag, and start courting the moderates. the one silver lining if he...(more) 4-24-2012 3:50pm
- np: ok, but he publically agreed with obama today. 4-24-2012 3:48pm
- what ever 4-24-2012 3:49pm
- he is making the shift to start courting the moderates. right on schedule. 4-24-2012 3:50pm
- Romney’s allies in Congress opposed student loan reform that passed as part of health care reform, and would allow big banks to once again act as middle-men in the process. 4-24-2012 3:49pm
- While Romney’s allies on Wall Street would again reap windfall profits from struggling college graduates, the plan would make college less affordable for middle class families. 4-24-2012 3:50pm
- romney has allies in congress? who, exactly? 4-24-2012 3:53pm
- what ever 4-24-2012 3:49pm
- who, Obama? 4-24-2012 3:47pm
- obama has bee funding ccs and stem sciences since he got in office. i cannot imagine romney will do the same 4-24-2012 3:47pm
- he falls in with the right wing every time and House Republicans are working overtime to cut Pell grants for one million low-income students 4-24-2012 3:46pm
- Yes, it was reported today 4-24-2012 3:45pm
- One standout feature of the Romney-endorsed Ryan budget is that it would deliver the biggest reductions to funding of Pell grants in the history of the program. 4-24-2012 3:47pm
- the popular federal Pell Grant tuition program, vastly expanded under President Obama, would take a big hit under the far-reaching fiscal 2012 Republican budget blueprint...(more) 4-24-2012 3:49pm
- no 4-24-2012 3:45pm
- what is his philosophy exactly? 4-24-2012 3:45pm
- personally i don't think either/or really works, but yes, his student loan philosophy is terrible 4-24-2012 3:45pm
- domestic manufacturing has actually been going up, I think. Also, our number one export is fossil fuels. 4-24-2012 3:45pm
- all that oil is being sold elsewhere to help drive up prices here. 4-24-2012 3:52pm
- We still have manufacturing jobs 4-24-2012 3:47pm
- we manufacture more than China (little known fact) Its just that the sectors have changed since the 1990s 4-24-2012 3:49pm
- in which sectors, exactly, do we manufacture more than china? 4-24-2012 3:51pm
- here. The problem is that so much of our stuff is mechanized, hence the loss of jobs...(more) 4-24-2012 3:56pm
- ah, that makes sense. thx 4-24-2012 4:10pm
- y/m 4-24-2012 4:11pm
- ah, that makes sense. thx 4-24-2012 4:10pm
- here. The problem is that so much of our stuff is mechanized, hence the loss of jobs...(more) 4-24-2012 3:56pm
- in which sectors, exactly, do we manufacture more than china? 4-24-2012 3:51pm
- not like we did. 4-24-2012 3:49pm
- we also pay less then we did for those 4-24-2012 3:49pm
- no 4-24-2012 3:50pm
- U. S. Lost 1.9 Million Manufacturing Jobs Due to Trade Deficit With China...(more) 4-24-2012 3:57pm
- The trade deficit with China grew from $84 billion in 2001, when China entered the WTO, to $278 billion in 2010 4-24-2012 3:58pm
- we manufacture more than China (little known fact) Its just that the sectors have changed since the 1990s 4-24-2012 3:49pm
- Massachusetts government call center services were outsourced during Romney’s administration. 4-24-2012 3:53pm
- “It’s no surprise that Massachusetts was losing manufacturing jobs twice as fast as the rest of the country while Governor Romney was in charge,” Biden said 4-24-2012 3:53pm
- Oh Biden, now THERE is an intellectual giant. God help him if Dupont ever leaves Deleware 4-24-2012 3:58pm +1 like
- Romney is not going to create any new jobs. The only thing he comes close to claiming by way of job creation is Staples, which shut down local businesses all over the country 4-24-2012 4:00pm
- and those local businesses had good selection and service and provided families with ownership and a decent living. Now those people can work for nothing for his huge corporation,...(more) 4-24-2012 4:00pm
- The bix box superstore phenomenon was a direct result of Clinton era policies (oh and don't forget NAFTA) there were winners and losers. Fact. 4-24-2012 4:01pm
- we need to stop all this NAFTA crap 4-24-2012 4:02pm
- we need to protect american workers, small business owners, and american manufacturing. tariffs. union jobs. 4-24-2012 4:02pm
- Go Pat!!! (Buchanhan) believe it or not, you agree with him 4-24-2012 4:04pm
- well if Obama is re elected and we get rid of the republicans in congress we might actually be able to pressure Obama and the democrats into doing something about this 4-24-2012 4:05pm
- He had two years unencumbered. Fact. And bullshit on him. His 'the rich pay their fair share' is complete nonsense. Both right and left agree we need more revenue coming in. The...(more) 4-24-2012 4:07pm
- which is why we should stop subsidizing multi national corporations 4-24-2012 4:12pm
- Romney has laid out plans that would slash corporate taxes by over a trillion dollars, protect corporate tax giveaways, and explode the deficit to do it. 4-24-2012 4:14pm
- Romney would blindly cut the top corporate tax rate from 35% to 25% without eliminating any of the same corporate tax giveaways. He has specifically defended the “carried...(more) 4-24-2012 4:15pm interest” tax preference that allows wealthy money managers like himself to pay a 15% tax rate on payments they get to manage other people’s investments.
- This policy personally saved Romney $2.6 million in taxes over the last two years compared to paying the ordinary income tax rates, and he has no plans to close the loophole. 4-24-2012 4:15pm
- Despite promoting these tax benefits for the wealthy, Romney doesn’t have a plan to pay for them—his corporate tax plan would add more than $1 trillion to the deficit over the...(more) 4-24-2012 4:15pm
- This policy personally saved Romney $2.6 million in taxes over the last two years compared to paying the ordinary income tax rates, and he has no plans to close the loophole. 4-24-2012 4:15pm
- Romney would blindly cut the top corporate tax rate from 35% to 25% without eliminating any of the same corporate tax giveaways. He has specifically defended the “carried...(more) 4-24-2012 4:15pm
- Romney would create a “territorial tax system” which would eliminate any tax on most foreign-earned income....(more) 4-24-2012 4:16pm Romney would create a “territorial tax system” which would eliminate any tax on most foreign-earned income.
- That would increase the incentive for companies to ship jobs overseas and give even greater rewards to companies that use accounting tricks to report profits in tax havens that...(more) 4-24-2012 4:17pm
- He had two years unencumbered. Fact. And bullshit on him. His 'the rich pay their fair share' is complete nonsense. Both right and left agree we need more revenue coming in. The...(more) 4-24-2012 4:07pm
- well if Obama is re elected and we get rid of the republicans in congress we might actually be able to pressure Obama and the democrats into doing something about this 4-24-2012 4:05pm
- Go Pat!!! (Buchanhan) believe it or not, you agree with him 4-24-2012 4:04pm
- no more tax breaks for multi national corporations who ship jobs overseas 4-24-2012 4:03pm
- FINALLY. This is what we need. GENUINE tax reform. Romney agrees with that 4-24-2012 4:04pm
- rofl - link? 4-24-2012 4:06pm
- total bullshit. Here's what Romney said: "“You’re going to see me talking about changing the corporate tax structure. 4-24-2012 4:07pm
- "“Our rates are the highest in the world and that means companies are inclined to go elsewhere. And I can’t speak for GE in specifics, but my guess is they’ve gone elsewhere over...(more) 4-24-2012 4:08pm r the years to places where taxes are lower and regulations are lower, where they think they are going to get a better deal.”
- and meanwhile - Mitt Romney pledged to protect oil companies' tax breaks...(more) 4-24-2012 4:09pm
- "“Our rates are the highest in the world and that means companies are inclined to go elsewhere. And I can’t speak for GE in specifics, but my guess is they’ve gone elsewhere over...(more) 4-24-2012 4:08pm
- FINALLY. This is what we need. GENUINE tax reform. Romney agrees with that 4-24-2012 4:04pm
- Romney is not going to create any new jobs. The only thing he comes close to claiming by way of job creation is Staples, which shut down local businesses all over the country 4-24-2012 4:00pm
- Oh Biden, now THERE is an intellectual giant. God help him if Dupont ever leaves Deleware 4-24-2012 3:58pm +1 like
- “It’s no surprise that Massachusetts was losing manufacturing jobs twice as fast as the rest of the country while Governor Romney was in charge,” Biden said 4-24-2012 3:53pm