i'm so excited to be leaving nyc. we're "poor" by nyc standards, and i've spent the last 6 years there feeling jealous of my friend's and their HHI. i never ever felt thi... (more)
anyone until we moved to nyc. it's so toxic. can't wait to live amongst normal "poor" folk like me.
posted November 16th, 2010 at 3:17pm in Toddler
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- to where are you moving? 11-16-2010 3:18pm
- i wish we could move but have no idea where to go - hhi $65K 11-16-2010 3:18pm
- IT isn't toxic, you are. 11-16-2010 3:18pm
- I have many friends with different incomes. I've never judged them. I am sorry you have felt that way. 11-16-2010 3:19pm
- well, i bet you own in nyc 11-16-2010 3:19pm
- yes. 11-16-2010 3:20pm
- np: i own in nyc. my apt. is among the smallest of my friends and kids dcs go to school with. am i jealous? sure. would it make me leave nyc? never. 11-16-2010 3:21pm
- diit- to the -to 11-16-2010 3:21pm
- np: tritto- the saddest thing is that we paid over 1 million for our apt- and I know that dh and I have close to the lowest income out of my ds's classmates- we're going public - I...(more) 11-16-2010 3:25pm
- np #1: i'm happy with our friends. they are all very down-to-earth. the preschool is private and some people there make $$$$ but at my older's public i suspect we will find a...(more) 11-16-2010 3:27pm different crowd. haven't seen anyone's apt. there yet though, she's in K. however, even the $$$$ people at the preschool are nice and low-key. so what if i turn green when i see where they live? :-)
- or: it's about perspective- does everyone own a country house/beach house, own a 3000 sq. ft prewar and vacation overseas every year? No- you wouldn't think that in my dc's preschool-...(more) 11-16-2010 3:29pm
- np #1: i'm happy with our friends. they are all very down-to-earth. the preschool is private and some people there make $$$$ but at my older's public i suspect we will find a...(more) 11-16-2010 3:27pm
- np: tritto- the saddest thing is that we paid over 1 million for our apt- and I know that dh and I have close to the lowest income out of my ds's classmates- we're going public - I...(more) 11-16-2010 3:25pm
- diit- to the -to 11-16-2010 3:21pm
- well, i bet you own in nyc 11-16-2010 3:19pm
- you sound annoying and judgey. good riddance. 11-16-2010 3:19pm
- neighborhood? HHI? 11-16-2010 3:19pm
- park slope, $100K 11-16-2010 3:20pm
- np: where are you going? 11-16-2010 3:20pm
- what kind of crowd do you hang out with? i live in park slope on 125k and it doesn't feel toxic to me. 11-16-2010 3:21pm
- it's hard to feel poor in park slope. it seems like all the kids are running around in cute clothes, going to their after school classes, living in large apartments. it isn't really...(more) 11-16-2010 3:23pm like that for everyone, but i can see how it would seem that way.
- op: ?, we have/do none of those things 11-16-2010 3:25pm
- OR: I was sympathizing w/you b/c that's what it seems like everyone is doing, and if you can't afford those things, you can feel bad about your situation. But, you seem a bit defensive,...(more) 11-16-2010 3:29pm
- sorry, didn't read that way. 11-16-2010 3:30pm
- OR: I was sympathizing w/you b/c that's what it seems like everyone is doing, and if you can't afford those things, you can feel bad about your situation. But, you seem a bit defensive,...(more) 11-16-2010 3:29pm
- op: ?, we have/do none of those things 11-16-2010 3:25pm
- park slope, $100K 11-16-2010 3:20pm
- too bad, we'll miss your nastiness. 11-16-2010 3:20pm
- op: i seriously won't miss a thing about nyc. it's disgusting, filthy and urine-covered. enjoy your own filth. 11-16-2010 3:21pm
- hey op: i feel you...i'm in the slope too and can not wait to leave 11-16-2010 3:22pm
- because of how filthy and urine-covered the slope is? you clearly just don't belong in the city. 11-16-2010 3:23pm
- no but I have certainly had those days...obv. she just needs to vent 11-16-2010 3:23pm
- because of how filthy and urine-covered the slope is? you clearly just don't belong in the city. 11-16-2010 3:23pm
- yea, park slope is so filthy and urine-covered. 11-16-2010 3:22pm
- actually it's pretty gross. all the rich moms take their kids to the playgrounds with condoms floating puddles. the park trash cans are overflowing. there's litter everywhere. it's a...(more) 11-16-2010 3:23pm
- wow, what park slope do you live in? i have never seen condoms floating in puddles in any of the playgrounds i've gone to. 11-16-2010 3:24pm
- well the next time you're waiting on the F platform, take a look around and ask yourself, "Is this where I want to raise my kids?" 11-16-2010 3:26pm
- you're a bit crazy 11-16-2010 3:27pm
- please tell me where you're going? CA? NJ? CT? 11-16-2010 3:27pm
- ita, i want to hear this 11-16-2010 3:27pm
- op: nope, i don't want the judgment of nycers 11-16-2010 3:28pm
- lmao 11-16-2010 3:29pm
- but i'm w/you dying to get out of nyc...still have to commute though unfortunately 11-16-2010 3:29pm
- okay, just so long as you're having fun judging us. 11-16-2010 3:29pm
- okay, what planet do you live on? have waited on the F platform countless times, and it never makes me want to leave the city. the problem is not park slope or nyc, the problem is...(more) 11-16-2010 3:27pm that you are not a city person. so leave, be happy, and can it with the sour grapes.
- this 11-16-2010 3:28pm
- op: ita. i hate this city. i grew up in Toronto, which is clean and organized and polite. i can't stand how decrepid nyc is and how i am afraid to touch anything in the subway. 11-16-2010 3:29pm
- oy. i am a native new yorker, going on 36 years now and so far i haven't died from anything i touched on the subway. i don't even wash my hands when i get home! do the people in...(more) 11-16-2010 3:30pm toronto have fewer germs? do they wipe down mass transit with lysol every 30 seconds?
- np: it is a much cleaner city...less people 11-16-2010 3:31pm
- fewer. and while i understand how the streets could be cleaner, less trash, picked up more often, etc. i don't get how public transit could be less "dangerous" in terms of germs. 11-16-2010 3:32pm
- op: this is the attitude that drives me crazy here - a sense of superiority even though you're living in filth. there is a better way. yes, the inside of your home might be wonderful,...(more) 11-16-2010 3:32pm
- you seem to be the one with the sense of superiority -- we're all just filthy people who don't even realize how filthy we are. i think that, while you may be happy to be leaving nyc,...(more) 11-16-2010 3:34pm you must feel bad in some way that you weren't able to make a happy life for yourself here, otherwise there wouldn't be all the sour grapes.
- I agree. She failed here. It happens to many. It's a hard city to live in. 11-16-2010 3:35pm
- i don't think it's a failure to prefer living somewhere other than nyc, but OP seems to feel that it is. 11-16-2010 3:36pm
- op: i don't consider leaving to be a failure. i think it's the smartest decision we ever made. 11-16-2010 3:38pm
- if you're so happy with your decision, why are you so angry? 11-16-2010 3:39pm
- op: i'm defensive - there's a difference. also, my original post said i was excited, which i am. i'm happy to be leaving. 11-16-2010 3:40pm
- then why do you have to shit on us on your way out? 11-16-2010 3:41pm
- op: i'm defensive - there's a difference. also, my original post said i was excited, which i am. i'm happy to be leaving. 11-16-2010 3:40pm
- if you're so happy with your decision, why are you so angry? 11-16-2010 3:39pm
- op: yes, there's definitely sour grapes in that our HHI is too poor to afford a decent home in a decent neighborhood. i'm very happy to be moving somewhere where i'll feel like we'...(more) 11-16-2010 3:36pm living within our means and not feeling like we're inadequate because we don't make $350K
- i have a feeling that you just told many of us that we live in shit apartments in shit neighborhoods. why do you keep attacking? 11-16-2010 3:37pm
- op: i didn't attack anyone's apartment. i said your homes are probably lovely, but the infrastructure is gross. 11-16-2010 3:39pm
- yea, lovely if we live in brownstones in park slope. news flash, many of us do not, and we still love our homes, our neighborhoods, and our city. 11-16-2010 3:40pm
- op: i didn't attack anyone's apartment. i said your homes are probably lovely, but the infrastructure is gross. 11-16-2010 3:39pm
- i have a feeling that you just told many of us that we live in shit apartments in shit neighborhoods. why do you keep attacking? 11-16-2010 3:37pm
- I agree. She failed here. It happens to many. It's a hard city to live in. 11-16-2010 3:35pm
- what in my response makes me sound superior? i think the people or new york are JUST AS germy - no more, no less - as those of toronto. 11-16-2010 3:35pm
- have you ridden the toronto subway? 11-16-2010 3:37pm
- no. is it open 24-7-365? i'm sure it's cleaner than new york's but i still don't think i'll die from touching a subway pole here. 11-16-2010 3:38pm
- have you ridden the toronto subway? 11-16-2010 3:37pm
- you seem to be the one with the sense of superiority -- we're all just filthy people who don't even realize how filthy we are. i think that, while you may be happy to be leaving nyc,...(more) 11-16-2010 3:34pm
- np: it is a much cleaner city...less people 11-16-2010 3:31pm
- oy. i am a native new yorker, going on 36 years now and so far i haven't died from anything i touched on the subway. i don't even wash my hands when i get home! do the people in...(more) 11-16-2010 3:30pm
- oh i have...some freaks on the train boy 11-16-2010 3:29pm
- Sweetie, that's not the park, it's the subway! No WONDER you hate NY so much. You should have asked us earlier and we would have given you better directions. FYI, it's not so safe to...(more) 11-16-2010 3:30pm play on those tracks, so i would make sure your little snowflakes stop doing that right away.
- please. you've never taken a stroll through propsect park on a sunday morning and thought to yourself, "oh my god, there's trash everywhere." ...(more) 11-16-2010 3:35pm you'd never be surprised to see a bum sleeping on a park bench in your hood, and you'd never flinch if you saw a needle, condom, whatever on the ground of your local playground. i don't want to live like that anymore.
- I've honestly never seen needles and condoms in the park. Sure they are there, but not where I am. The City is dirty, sure. It's ridiculously expensive. But truly, and I'm not being...(more) 11-16-2010 3:38pm snarky, you started this thread out talking about hating being considered poor here. I get that. Many of us feel that combination of envy/failure in NYC. But then you went off on how filthy the place is and that is really denigrating your original point. You sound bitter and you are lashing out. It's dirty and crowded and stinky in August, but come on. there is no greater city.
- op: good point. my argument has degenerated significantly. 11-16-2010 3:42pm
- seriously, what playgrounds do you go to? i usually go to harmony, and have yet to see a condom or needle. 11-16-2010 3:39pm
- I've honestly never seen needles and condoms in the park. Sure they are there, but not where I am. The City is dirty, sure. It's ridiculously expensive. But truly, and I'm not being...(more) 11-16-2010 3:38pm
- please. you've never taken a stroll through propsect park on a sunday morning and thought to yourself, "oh my god, there's trash everywhere." ...(more) 11-16-2010 3:35pm
- well the next time you're waiting on the F platform, take a look around and ask yourself, "Is this where I want to raise my kids?" 11-16-2010 3:26pm
- omg, nice try 11-16-2010 3:24pm
- wow, what park slope do you live in? i have never seen condoms floating in puddles in any of the playgrounds i've gone to. 11-16-2010 3:24pm
- actually it's pretty gross. all the rich moms take their kids to the playgrounds with condoms floating puddles. the park trash cans are overflowing. there's litter everywhere. it's a...(more) 11-16-2010 3:23pm
- funny, i don't live in filth. Sorry you had to. 11-16-2010 3:22pm
- I totally felt your pain until right there. You're an asshole and bitter and good riddance. 11-16-2010 3:22pm
- ^^^and PS I live in park slope and I rent and we are "poor" I guess and what the friggety fuck are you talking about? You won't be happy in the burbs either, i promise you that. Sorry...(more) 11-16-2010 3:24pm
- lol ita 11-16-2010 3:24pm
- wow you are angry! 11-16-2010 3:25pm
- ^^^and PS I live in park slope and I rent and we are "poor" I guess and what the friggety fuck are you talking about? You won't be happy in the burbs either, i promise you that. Sorry...(more) 11-16-2010 3:24pm
- LMAO 11-16-2010 3:23pm
- lol, you make your own life 11-16-2010 3:24pm
- hey op: i feel you...i'm in the slope too and can not wait to leave 11-16-2010 3:22pm
- op: i seriously won't miss a thing about nyc. it's disgusting, filthy and urine-covered. enjoy your own filth. 11-16-2010 3:21pm
- the issue is not them---it's you. 11-16-2010 3:21pm
- if you are jealous how is it anybody else's fault? if the city is bringing the worst out of you, then I agree you are making the right move 11-16-2010 3:21pm
- op: yes, good point. i am not a good fit with nyc. 11-16-2010 3:22pm
- it's o.k, I am not a new yorker. never liked that place, although I could afford it 11-16-2010 3:23pm
- WHERE ARE YOU MOVING TO? IT'S BEEN ASKED AND YOU WON'T ANSWER. 11-16-2010 3:30pm
- why does that matter? 11-16-2010 3:30pm
- np: wow, something a bit weird about your refusal to answer this on an anonymous board. 11-16-2010 3:31pm
- op: i'm being attacked left and right. i'm not going to tell people where i'm moving. 11-16-2010 3:33pm
- you called the city that many of us live in and love toxic, then went on and on about how filthy it is. who's doing the attacking? 11-16-2010 3:35pm
- op: i'm being attacked left and right. i'm not going to tell people where i'm moving. 11-16-2010 3:33pm
- I'm trying to figure out the spotless nirvana you've chosen for your new home. 11-16-2010 3:34pm
- ^^also, i'm crossing my fingers that you're not moving to my small city, because you seem like a troll 11-16-2010 3:37pm
- np: wow, something a bit weird about your refusal to answer this on an anonymous board. 11-16-2010 3:31pm
- why does that matter? 11-16-2010 3:30pm
- op: yes, good point. i am not a good fit with nyc. 11-16-2010 3:22pm
- What's your profession? 11-16-2010 3:22pm
- you sound insecure. you need to stop comparing your life to everyone else. you will probably do the same when you move. not being mean 11-16-2010 3:23pm
- well, i was fine for the first 30 years of my life, so i'm guessing i just need to leave nyc. can't wait. 11-16-2010 3:24pm
- have fun in Hartford! 11-16-2010 3:23pm
- good luck to you - i wish we could leave - but are stuck here for our industry 11-16-2010 3:27pm