I work with poor, urban white, black, hispanic and asian families, have for years in a variety of locations. It's a cultural thing. black urban americans are NOT like white urban... (more)
americans, or hispanic urban americans. They are all very different. Not saying one is better or worse than the other, but there are very distinct differences that you would only understand if you worked or lived in the communities.
posted May 29th, 2010 at 10:12pm in Toddler
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- ita - the idiots who say race doesn't matter are just that - idiots. 5-29-2010 10:12pm
- Race does not matter for how you bring up your kids! Culture does, but race doesn't. 5-29-2010 10:13pm
- culture and race are often intertwines. 5-29-2010 10:13pm
- ^intertwined 5-29-2010 10:14pm
- Duh. But they can be totally separated. Bring up a chinese baby in Montreal, and she'll bring up her kids like a Montrealer. 5-29-2010 10:15pm
- Not necessarily. If the parents were born in China and hang out with other Chinese-born people, no. 5-29-2010 10:16pm
- You're proving my point. Race doesn't matter here. 5-29-2010 10:19pm
- Not necessarily. If the parents were born in China and hang out with other Chinese-born people, no. 5-29-2010 10:16pm
- Duh. But they can be totally separated. Bring up a chinese baby in Montreal, and she'll bring up her kids like a Montrealer. 5-29-2010 10:15pm
- ^intertwined 5-29-2010 10:14pm
- culture and race are often intertwines. 5-29-2010 10:13pm
- np - of course race matters. How a particular group came to live in this country profoundly affects how they interact with this country. 5-29-2010 10:14pm
- absolutely. 5-29-2010 10:14pm
- I like the strategy of justifying your racism by saying its just true 5-29-2010 10:15pm
- Race does not matter for how you bring up your kids! Culture does, but race doesn't. 5-29-2010 10:13pm
- So, what are the differences? 5-29-2010 10:13pm
- yes, I'd like to hear this too. 5-29-2010 10:14pm
- there are differences in the way they speak to their kids, in their values, where they spend their money, and so much more 5-29-2010 10:14pm
- so all urban black people spend their money differently than all the urban white people? really? So all the black teachers that I work with all spend their money differently than I...(more) 5-29-2010 10:16pm do? Because as far as I can tell, they pay their mortgages, they take care of their kids, they try to save for vacations etc. Just like me.
- it's cultural, which is a combination of socioeconomic class, race. And of course there are exceptions, but community also has an effect. I assume the teachers you work with live in...(more) 5-29-2010 10:18pm
- most people who live in the ghetto are not criminals and do not neglect their children. 5-29-2010 10:20pm
- I absolutely did NOT say it did. I said that cultures/races are very different. I didn't say one was better or worse than the other 5-29-2010 10:22pm
- most people who live in the ghetto are not criminals and do not neglect their children. 5-29-2010 10:20pm
- it's cultural, which is a combination of socioeconomic class, race. And of course there are exceptions, but community also has an effect. I assume the teachers you work with live in...(more) 5-29-2010 10:18pm
- ugh. you make me sick. 5-29-2010 10:16pm
- so all urban black people spend their money differently than all the urban white people? really? So all the black teachers that I work with all spend their money differently than I...(more) 5-29-2010 10:16pm
- and this is apropos of what? 5-29-2010 10:13pm
- i can't believe you're trying again. even if this is true, there are some truths that shouldn't be spoken. especially here. 5-29-2010 10:13pm
- what damaging logic. 5-29-2010 10:13pm
- ita 5-29-2010 10:13pm
- np: haven't seen any of the other posts b/c i just logged on. but i disagree with your statment. if it's true, it bears examination 5-29-2010 10:14pm
- yup 5-29-2010 10:14pm
- um, I've been TRAINED in dealing with the differences. How can you say that culture/race has no impact on these things? It's like pretending men and women are identical 5-29-2010 10:15pm
- trained by the KKK, of course race matters, but not stereotypes\ 5-29-2010 10:18pm
- omg, you are fucking crazy 5-29-2010 10:19pm
- ^^I said nothing negative about ANY race or culture, just that they are very different, and that is not racism 5-29-2010 10:22pm
- married to an asian, and completely agree. 5-29-2010 10:27pm
- ^^I said nothing negative about ANY race or culture, just that they are very different, and that is not racism 5-29-2010 10:22pm
- omg, you are fucking crazy 5-29-2010 10:19pm
- trained by the KKK, of course race matters, but not stereotypes\ 5-29-2010 10:18pm
- twisting that post too. no one said that. 5-29-2010 10:13pm
- zactly. 5-29-2010 10:13pm
- ^but btw, black urban americans - the sort of worst part of the culture- the incest, the drugs, the neglect for children, bc we know that's what op was getting at- that ALL Happens in...(more) 5-29-2010 10:14pm
- TOTALLY 5-29-2010 10:15pm
- being black and urban doesn't defacto make you a criminal or a lumpen member of the underclass. For crying out loud, do you people hear yourselves? 5-29-2010 10:17pm
- it's from another post. the other poster was talking about the worst of black urban culture... 5-29-2010 10:18pm
- well the "worst" of black urban culture is not all of black urban culture. Just as not every successful Jewish businessman is not Bernie Madoff. 5-29-2010 10:22pm
- it's from another post. the other poster was talking about the worst of black urban culture... 5-29-2010 10:18pm
- yes, cultures are different. but socioeconomic class is, IMO, more of a determining factor than race. 5-29-2010 10:14pm
- ITA 5-29-2010 10:16pm
- ita. 5-29-2010 10:16pm
- but sometimes those differences don't matter that much. 5-29-2010 10:17pm
- ime experience this is absolutely true. and I am appalled at a lot of the statement in these posts. Either ignorance, fear or outright lies. 5-29-2010 10:18pm
- I'm the OP of the other post, and many responders said that the characteristics I described are typical of all poor people, no matter what the race, and I guess I haven't actually spent...(more) 5-29-2010 10:17pm enough time around non-immigrant Latino, Asian and white poor families to argue against that.
- they are not typical of poor people! Most poor people are not criminals and do not neglect their children!!!!!!!! 5-29-2010 10:19pm