I know several people in the military. And they all very conservative, think the war is justified and noble and still support GWB. Hard for me to feel grateful. Flame away.
posted May 22nd, 2008 at 11:59am in Toddler
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- Youre flamed. That's all the energy I have for you. 5-22-2008 11:59am
- ditto 5-22-2008 12:00pm
- we should send you there 5-22-2008 11:59am
- ITA 5-22-2008 12:00pm
- Go ahead. See what happens if you try to institute a draft. 5-22-2008 12:00pm
- lol ita 5-22-2008 12:00pm
- please tell me you will move to Canada...please!!! 5-22-2008 12:01pm
- Nope. I love this country too much to see the wing nuts drive it into the ground. 5-22-2008 12:02pm
- I was a military wife, and while this is mostly true, at the officer levels there is much more skepticism, and even at th enlisted level, now (I mean, look at what's happening to them!) ...(more) 5-22-2008 12:00pm
- ^^There are some very talented and smart people in the military. 5-22-2008 12:00pm
- mostly poor, uneducated types i think 5-22-2008 12:00pm
- wrong 5-22-2008 12:01pm
- why would someone with an education and money join the military? 5-22-2008 12:02pm
- np: service, tradition 5-22-2008 12:03pm
- lopl 5-22-2008 12:04pm
- You're really disgusting. 5-22-2008 12:04pm
- lopl 5-22-2008 12:04pm
- they go in and THEN get educated and gain life experience and maturity more tham i can say about frat boys 5-22-2008 12:04pm
- Noblesse oblige 5-22-2008 12:05pm
- that is called being a democrat 5-22-2008 12:06pm
- lol, I'm a republican actually. But an old-school one, not a Bushie. 5-22-2008 12:09pm
- "old school" In the mold of who, exactly? 5-22-2008 12:10pm
- rockefeller republican--social liberal, fiscal conservative, strong but prudent on national security 5-22-2008 12:12pm
- You're just like the REpublicans in Congress, almost none of them have children in the military. 5-22-2008 12:13pm
- Why would they? They are the economic elite. The culture of the military isn't what it was 40 years ago. 5-22-2008 12:13pm
- I don't think that any of your political touchstones would have said what you said. In fact, many of them served. They realized that there are non-economic benefits to a person that ca...(more) 5-22-2008 12:14pm could be obtained through military service. I'm more of a Bob Taft Republican myself, but I don't recognize any of him in the attitude that the military is mostly poor, uneducated types who have no other option than to join.
- Point taken. Unfortunately, I do think right now, a lot of our military is made up of people who have fewer options and advantages. Obviously, the officer corps is different, but you w...(more) 5-22-2008 12:16pm won't find many people with good economic prospects among the regular enlisted.
- And it's even there that we disagee. I agree that the military is a employer of last resort in some regions but most of the enlisted men I've known get out and have great prospects post...(more) 5-22-2008 12:20pm post-military. It all depends, I think, on where you are. If you live in a place or travel in circles where you don't get a second look if you don't have graduate degrees, you are right. That isn't, however, the majority of the country. Still, though, we probably agree on more than we disagree. Nice getting a little nuance out of the discussion. :)
- And it's even there that we disagee. I agree that the military is a employer of last resort in some regions but most of the enlisted men I've known get out and have great prospects post...(more) 5-22-2008 12:20pm
- Point taken. Unfortunately, I do think right now, a lot of our military is made up of people who have fewer options and advantages. Obviously, the officer corps is different, but you w...(more) 5-22-2008 12:16pm
- You're just like the REpublicans in Congress, almost none of them have children in the military. 5-22-2008 12:13pm
- rockefeller republican--social liberal, fiscal conservative, strong but prudent on national security 5-22-2008 12:12pm
- "old school" In the mold of who, exactly? 5-22-2008 12:10pm
- lol, I'm a republican actually. But an old-school one, not a Bushie. 5-22-2008 12:09pm
- np: service, tradition 5-22-2008 12:03pm
- why would someone with an education and money join the military? 5-22-2008 12:02pm
- Expand on this, please. 5-22-2008 12:02pm
- why would anyone else enlist? 5-22-2008 12:02pm
- wrong 5-22-2008 12:01pm
- oy. how about respectful, then? 5-22-2008 12:00pm
- op: I respect their service, but I think their blind support of this president has contributed to their situation 5-22-2008 12:01pm
- listen crunchie...you should thank your lucky stars there are men & woman like that....no military...no free usa 5-22-2008 12:02pm
- They aren't exactly defending our freedom in Iraq right now. They are babysitting a civil war. 5-22-2008 12:03pm
- you're nuts. there are no free people in the world other than in the USA? 5-22-2008 12:06pm
- apparently, the people of sweden and denmark are horribly oppressed 5-22-2008 12:07pm
- do people care about sweden? the us needs to defend itself...we have always been hated....even before bush 5-22-2008 12:09pm
- They seem to have a nice life without going around invading people. We look for trouble. 5-22-2008 12:10pm
- do people care about sweden? the us needs to defend itself...we have always been hated....even before bush 5-22-2008 12:09pm
- we are not the only country there...read please 5-22-2008 12:07pm
- right, I hear El Salvador sent a few people. You still think this is a broad coalition? 5-22-2008 12:07pm
- you are cute....how is your cushy mc mansion? 5-22-2008 12:09pm
- lol, not at all. and talk about a non-sequitur 5-22-2008 12:11pm
- you are cute....how is your cushy mc mansion? 5-22-2008 12:09pm
- right, I hear El Salvador sent a few people. You still think this is a broad coalition? 5-22-2008 12:07pm
- np: in all fairness, without they would not be free. Remember Hitler? 5-22-2008 12:08pm
- That's fine. You fight the wars you need to fight. This one is idiotic. 5-22-2008 12:08pm
- This one is completely unplanned and counterproductive. It maybe could have been done right, but was botced from the beginning. 5-22-2008 12:09pm
- That's fine. You fight the wars you need to fight. This one is idiotic. 5-22-2008 12:08pm
- apparently, the people of sweden and denmark are horribly oppressed 5-22-2008 12:07pm
- listen crunchie...you should thank your lucky stars there are men & woman like that....no military...no free usa 5-22-2008 12:02pm
- op: I respect their service, but I think their blind support of this president has contributed to their situation 5-22-2008 12:01pm
- I am so left wing and so anti the war and yet I think you are such a tool. 5-22-2008 12:00pm
- ditto 5-22-2008 12:01pm
- You're not even very good at trolling. Why would I waste my time? 5-22-2008 12:00pm
- huh, i know plenty of military (work in a va hospital). haven't met one that thinks this war is a good idea. including the OIE, OEF vets 5-22-2008 12:00pm
- Military people voted overwhelmingly for Bush in 2004 5-22-2008 12:01pm
- True. Vets at the VA would be likely to be soured on war. 5-22-2008 12:02pm
- very true 5-22-2008 12:04pm
- True. Vets at the VA would be likely to be soured on war. 5-22-2008 12:02pm
- Military people voted overwhelmingly for Bush in 2004 5-22-2008 12:01pm
- Your experience is very limited, and your view is incredibly narrow. I can't muster up enough care to flame you, though. Pathetic 5-22-2008 12:01pm
- Then why did they vote so overwhelmingly for Bush? 5-22-2008 12:02pm
- This is the basis for your ranting? The 04 vote? 5-22-2008 12:04pm
- I bet you they will vote overwhelmingly for McCain too. 5-22-2008 12:04pm
- np: they will 5-22-2008 12:07pm
- So there you go. I don't understand why we should be grateful to them when they themselves are voting to prolong the war. 5-22-2008 12:08pm
- Not al of them are. I thinnk it will be interesting to see how they vote this time. One thing about the military, it's a lot less racist than the rest of te US. 5-22-2008 12:10pm
- I believe that. It will be interesting to see what happens. 5-22-2008 12:12pm
- Not al of them are. I thinnk it will be interesting to see how they vote this time. One thing about the military, it's a lot less racist than the rest of te US. 5-22-2008 12:10pm
- So there you go. I don't understand why we should be grateful to them when they themselves are voting to prolong the war. 5-22-2008 12:08pm
- np: they will 5-22-2008 12:07pm
- I bet you they will vote overwhelmingly for McCain too. 5-22-2008 12:04pm
- psssst...bush won the election everyone voted for him 5-22-2008 12:05pm
- sure, but the military vote was overwhelmingly Bush and will be for McCain too. And don't tell me it's b/c he's a war hero b/c so was kerry 5-22-2008 12:06pm
- Everyone? 51% 5-22-2008 12:15pm
- right. and what was the military %? 85% or so? 5-22-2008 12:17pm
- This is the basis for your ranting? The 04 vote? 5-22-2008 12:04pm
- Then why did they vote so overwhelmingly for Bush? 5-22-2008 12:02pm
- Until half their face gets blown off by an IED 5-22-2008 12:02pm