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  1. Cleveland Drinks tomorrow after work? Manhattan (the location not the drink, but Im sure we can find a bartender to serve one of those too) 21 hr ago (1 reply)
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    • Where and when? 3 hr 20 min ago
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  2. Cleveland 20 questions. 22 hr 52 min ago (15 replies)
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    • there is only one worth asking here. 22 hr 52 min ago
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      • okay then, one question 22 hr 51 min ago
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        • Why don't you divorce? 22 hr 51 min ago
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          • DW is a great woman. I love her and love my family. 22 hr 50 min ago
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            • lol 22 hr 49 min ago
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            • But...... 22 hr 25 min ago
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              • np: not enough sex so... 14 hr 39 min ago
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                • same 14 hr 38 min ago
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                  • tritto. dw and i are in different galaxies in terms of sex. thats worse than different hemispheres. at lease in the latter i could catch a plane or a boat. 14 hr 1 min ago
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                    • Which is why 90% of men cheat. 14 hr ago
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                      • At least I'm not on AM! 13 hr 58 min ago
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                        • there were almost no women on AM, which is another good reason for any guy not to use the site 13 hr 56 min ago
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                          • Damn. Very true. I guess Ill have to look elsewhere. 13 hr 56 min ago
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                      • Is the number that high? Really? (Genuinely curious, not being snarky) 1 hr 19 min ago
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                        • np: 90% probably want to, but the number is probably closer to 50% 16 min ago
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  3. Cleveland Affair is nervous about the AM leak, not bc his dw will find out but worried about his 20yo ds finding it and losing respect for him. Sad. 8-26-2015 12:10pm (16 replies)
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    • tough shit, hope karma kicks him in the ass 8-26-2015 12:10pm
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      • you've never done anything that you are not proud of? 8-26-2015 12:11pm
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        • this post is about the OP, not about me 8-26-2015 12:12pm
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          • no, everyone is subject to your "idea" of karma then, correct? 8-26-2015 12:13pm
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        • stay on topic, delores 8-26-2015 12:12pm
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        • is the affair continuing? he knows its wrong, and does it anyway. that's not making a mistake, that's bad character. 8-26-2015 12:13pm
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      • this is really a slippery slope. Wait til hackers release names of women who've had abortions, or anything else people want to remain private. 8-26-2015 12:12pm
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    • Cool dad! 8-26-2015 12:10pm
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    • ROFLMAO. Cheaters all get what they deserve, eventually. 8-26-2015 12:12pm
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    • don't worry, i'm sure dad pushed his son into the right college, fraternity and profession (banking, consulting) where this will be a reality (through peer pressure) for him soon...(more) 8-26-2015 12:14pm
      enough
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      • you couldn't be more wrong, but go ahead and make assumptions. 8-26-2015 12:15pm
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    • I really dont like people like you. You both know its wrong, and you only care when you're about to be caught. As long as its kept secret, you could care less about what you're...(more) 8-26-2015 12:18pm
      doing. horrible, evil disgusting excuse of a person you both are
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      • you hit the nail on the head 8-26-2015 12:20pm
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      • Or, rather on a more human level, they are seeking and obtaining some socially unsanctioned pleasure in this brutish world with no intention of hurting anyone. 8-26-2015 1:27pm
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        • oh shut the f up 8-26-2015 4:05pm
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  4. Cleveland I gave her my heart and all she gave me was a pen 8-25-2015 11:08pm (7 replies)
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    • at least you got a pen out of the deal. 8-25-2015 11:42pm
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    • she wanted all of you not just your heart. 8-25-2015 11:45pm
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      • I wish she did 8-25-2015 11:46pm
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    • Joe lies 8-25-2015 11:48pm
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      • when he cries 8-26-2015 11:19pm
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    • so let's hear a bit more about this pen 8-25-2015 11:49pm
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    • say anything. Great movie! ;) 8-26-2015 9:08am
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  5. Cleveland Had an affair. Ended it 5 yrs ago. Got my act together. Now divorcing. Contacted affair and he wants me back. For good. Marriage, kids, the whole shebang. This isn't...(more) 8-25-2015 10:28pm (41 replies)
    fake
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    • TITF 8-25-2015 10:29pm
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    • Op-he's single (and always has been) 8-25-2015 10:29pm
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      • what is wrong with him that he wasn't able to find a relationship in 5 yrs? 8-25-2015 10:30pm
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        • He actually got married and divorced in the 5 yes we were apart. No kids. 8-25-2015 10:30pm
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          • why did you end the affair? 8-25-2015 10:31pm
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            • Wanted to work on marriage. 8-25-2015 10:35pm
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              • what made you decide it wasn't going to work? 8-25-2015 10:35pm
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                • Soooooo much. 8-25-2015 10:36pm
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                  • i'm in a similar situation. Can you elaborate? 8-25-2015 10:41pm
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          • NP this is a red flag to me. (Aside from the fact that he's gross enough to sleep with a married woman.) He got married and divorced within a 5 year span? Screams of commitment...(more) 8-25-2015 10:32pm
            issues.
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            • Probably still loved op 8-25-2015 10:33pm
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            • He said he was still in love with me and rushed to get married 8-25-2015 10:33pm
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    • Good. I hope. 8-25-2015 10:30pm
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      • You hope what? 8-25-2015 10:30pm
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        • I hope it is good for you, him, and your dcs 8-25-2015 10:31pm
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    • he sounds desperate. and no other whores wanted him in 5 years, so sad. 8-25-2015 10:30pm
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      • He can fuck whomever he wants. He is young , good looking and has a lot of money. 8-25-2015 10:34pm
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        • Exactly. He is a spoiled rich kid that never had to for anything. When marriage looked like work, he bailed. 8-26-2015 1:16am
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    • If you want it then go for it. Have you not been in contact for 5 years? 8-25-2015 10:32pm
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      • No 8-25-2015 10:33pm
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        • Do you have kids? Take it slow if you do. And finalize the divorce. 8-25-2015 10:34pm
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          • Yes I have 3 8-25-2015 10:34pm
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            • Which divorcing mom are you? 8-25-2015 10:35pm
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              • I haven't posted about my divorce really 8-25-2015 10:36pm
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            • oh for christ's sake 8-25-2015 10:35pm
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              • ? 8-25-2015 10:35pm
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                • please dont put 3 innocent children through this 8-25-2015 10:38pm
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                  • She can't have a relationship because she has kids? 8-25-2015 10:40pm
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                    • yes its because she has kids, nothing to do with the hot mess of a person she is 8-25-2015 10:42pm
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                    • She needs to help her kids work through the divorce before getting into any relationship. 8-25-2015 10:44pm
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            • "Mommy and Daddy are getting divorced. It has nothing to do with you, just some sleaze Mommy used to have sex with who is conveniently single now too!" 8-25-2015 10:35pm
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              • Shit happens. She might very well be quite happy and the kids too. 8-26-2015 2:04am
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    • It probably won't work but might as well give it a go. 8-25-2015 10:42pm
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    • Be single and date. How old are your dcs? 8-25-2015 10:43pm
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      • I am pretty sure I want him. And vice versa. 8-25-2015 10:43pm
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        • Then be single and focus on your dcs. 8-25-2015 10:44pm
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        • date but don't introduce him to your dc. Wait 8-25-2015 10:46pm
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        • I post on Cleveland so obviously I don't have a problem with affairs but you really should put your dcs first in this situation. 8-25-2015 11:06pm
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          • Where does it say she isn't. 8-26-2015 12:22am
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    • Can I ask why you're divorcing now? Did your dh find out ever about your affair(s)? 8-26-2015 2:22pm
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  6. Cleveland Did you know Lesley Howard (Ashley Wilkes) was Jewish? And was shot down by the Luftwaffe during WWII? 8-25-2015 9:06pm (5 replies)
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  7. Cleveland With AM looking less attractive as an option, does anyone use fetlife? 8-24-2015 10:58pm (5 replies)
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    • never heard of it 8-24-2015 11:04pm
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    • Ill take any option 8-24-2015 11:28pm
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    • Is that for fetishes? 8-25-2015 1:22pm
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      • I haven't really used the site but it does seem to be all about fetishes. 8-25-2015 3:56pm
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      • it is. but it's not a bad place to start. 8-26-2015 11:37pm
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  8. Cleveland If you met your affair online, did he come on real fast with sexting, etc. Like before you even met? 8-24-2015 10:30pm (14 replies)
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    • red flag 8-24-2015 10:32pm
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      • It is right? The guy begged to send me a dick shot!! 8-24-2015 10:33pm
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        • bye bye 8-24-2015 10:34pm
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        • Not such a turn on. Nah. I think a cuticle shot mot be more appealing. 8-24-2015 10:34pm
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    • Do none of you women have any self respect?! 8-24-2015 10:34pm
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      • Define respect. I don't respect cock shots. 8-24-2015 10:35pm
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        • Op-this! I am not going to meet him. Just wondering if this par for course 8-24-2015 10:36pm
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          • I can't see that kind of approach working. Even a first date online chat with a vag shot is a bit too much. 8-24-2015 10:37pm
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            • What does that mean? First date is via FaceTime and you send a vag shot?? 8-24-2015 10:39pm
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              • FaceTime first date. Not a bad idea. 8-24-2015 10:43pm
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                • What did your line above mean? 8-24-2015 10:44pm
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                  • It was a joke 8-24-2015 10:45pm
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                  • Come on LA mom. Get with the program! 8-24-2015 10:45pm
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    • Most guys, yes. One guy recently asked to send me videos and dick pics without any in return. He seemed obsessed about it, got off on it. 8-25-2015 1:09am
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  9. Cleveland Long shot- but any south pasadena mom on? 8-24-2015 2:26pm (2 replies)
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    • I think Ashley Wilkes is from south pasadena. 8-24-2015 3:44pm
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    • Yes, hi honey 8-24-2015 6:36pm
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  10. Cleveland How did you meet your affair? I met a guy I really like a couple of years ago but wasn't ready. Online just seems so depressing, I want someone I have some sort of connection...(more) 8-24-2015 2:25pm (12 replies)
    to, don't just want to meet and fuck.
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    • Neighborhood 8-24-2015 2:27pm
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      • Isnt that risky? 8-24-2015 2:28pm
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        • Some people like that, but if it's going to make you anxious then it sounds like it might not be optimal for you. 8-24-2015 2:29pm
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    • I met one here. 8-24-2015 3:10pm
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    • What is your email. You may like me and I may like you. No need to make this depressing. Blue and white with a touch of purple is quite pleasing to the eyes. 8-24-2015 10:29pm
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      • What are you referring to you in your last line? Also I don't live in NY 8-24-2015 10:32pm
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        • The colors on the board. Where do you live? 8-24-2015 10:34pm
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          • Los Angeles 8-24-2015 10:36pm
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            • Im in DC. Not going to work. It was fun while it lasted and I want you to know Ill never forget our time together. 8-24-2015 10:38pm
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              • Lol 8-24-2015 10:41pm
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                • Please, if you're the poster above, DO NOT send me a vagina shot. It will leave a bad taste in my mouth. 8-24-2015 10:42pm
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    • Online. 8-25-2015 1:19am
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  11. Cleveland Did you know Lesley Howard (Ashley Wilkes) was Jewish? And was shot down by the Luftwaffe during WWII? 8-23-2015 6:41pm (0 replies)
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  12. Cleveland Did you know Lesley Howard (Ashley Wilkes) was Jewish? And was shot down by the Luftwaffe during WWII? 8-23-2015 6:40pm (1 reply)
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    • Have a great time posting. Love you!!!! 8-23-2015 6:41pm
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  13. Cleveland Did you know Lesley Howard (Ashley Wilkes) was Jewish? And was shot down by the Luftwaffe during WWII? 8-23-2015 6:40pm (0 replies)
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  14. Cleveland Did you know Lesley Howard (Ashley Wilkes) was Jewish? And was shot down by the Luftwaffe during WWII? 8-23-2015 6:40pm (0 replies)
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  15. Cleveland Did you know Lesley Howard (Ashley Wilkes) was Jewish? And was shot down by the Luftwaffe during WWII? 8-23-2015 6:40pm (0 replies)
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  16. Cleveland Did you know Lesley Howard (Ashley Wilkes) was Jewish? And was shot down by the Luftwaffe during WWII? 8-23-2015 6:40pm (0 replies)
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  17. Cleveland Anyone on? 8-23-2015 5:59pm (36 replies)
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    • Me but not if you're Blocked Affair Mom 8-23-2015 6:42pm
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      • who? 8-23-2015 7:09pm
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      • you must be Lesley Howard poster 8-23-2015 7:14pm
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      • Big ditto on that. Can't take it anymore. And I can be obsessive. 8-23-2015 7:23pm
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        • Right?! I mean I get that it's tough but for the love of Pete... 8-23-2015 7:54pm
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          • what's the backstory here?? 8-23-2015 8:09pm
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          • But she was with him for such a short amount of time. Chalk it up to he realized your cuckoo and move on. 8-23-2015 8:45pm
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            • I think she broke up with him, though? 8-23-2015 9:09pm
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              • I thought it was mutual. She brought it up Bc of her feelings and he agreed...(more) 8-23-2015 9:39pm
                By agreed I mean he ran the other way.
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            • well I don't think most people having affairs are the most emotionally stable 8-23-2015 10:15pm
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          • many, many women feel like her when it ends. people develop feelings pretty quickly whether dating or in an affair 8-24-2015 1:02am
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            • Again I totally get that but she was ruminating ad nauseum. Like she was waiting for the right answer and was going to keep asking the same question until she heard what she...(more) 8-24-2015 7:49am
              wanted to hear. Nothing was getting into her thick skull.
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              • She was processing out loud. I don't think any more than others but she was doing it on here. 8-24-2015 8:59am
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                • you're nuts. she took almost the entire first page one day with her posts 8-24-2015 12:39pm
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                  • that was a bad day for her. Many of us have been there. 8-24-2015 1:36pm
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                    • i think it was a bad week, but still - like the above poster said it was like she was looking for...(more) 8-24-2015 2:32pm
                      looking for an answer no one was giving
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                      • So? 8-24-2015 3:53pm
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                        • Go away blocked affair mom. 8-24-2015 4:58pm
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                          • Seriously was not me. I saw this thread, but have not responded. 8-24-2015 5:12pm
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                            • Correct. It was me. 8-24-2015 5:20pm
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                              • THank you for "sticking up" for me. I am not proud of my actions. I just needed to vent and had no other outlet. Haven't been on for a week or so and happened to see this post. 8-24-2015 5:42pm
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                                • Hopefully you've got your shit together now and are moving ahead in...(more) 8-24-2015 5:45pm
                                  The right direction. You received some really sound advice and I hope you really listened.
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                                  • I haven't felt the need to post here. It's unproductive. As for advice, I have actually met with a therapist who specializes in this area. Seems like she will be very helpful. I...(more) 8-24-2015 5:54pm
                                    don't want to rehash it, but I do want to point out that HE was the one who started talking about feelings early on, like a few weeks in, not me.
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                                    • Glad to hear that but you're still "stuck" on the fact that he shared feelings first. Wtf cares at this point?! My point this entire time is that you need to forget about him and...(more) 8-24-2015 6:00pm
                                      Move on. Not go Rain Man and play that over and over and over again. It's irrelevant.
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                                      • I was just clarifying misinformation above. Yes, I am a little stuck on that, it kind of messes with one's self esteem, at least mine. 8-24-2015 6:05pm
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                                        • All you need to know is he turned his back on you and rejected you. You should be done. 8-24-2015 6:14pm
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                                          • You sound very bitter. 8-24-2015 6:18pm
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                                            • Hahaha I'm really not. This woman needs tough love to get through her thick skull. She needs some self respect. 8-24-2015 6:25pm
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            • Are you a DH or DW? 8-24-2015 2:10pm
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              • DW 8-24-2015 2:39pm
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                • Did that happen to you? 8-24-2015 2:44pm
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                  • Did what exactly happen to me? 8-24-2015 2:49pm
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                    • YOu seem like you were speaking from experience 8-24-2015 2:59pm
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                      • We are all here for one reason or another... 8-24-2015 3:08pm
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              • OR: DW. Sure, i've fallen for a man quickly. I've also had situations where i haven't. 8-24-2015 8:10pm
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      • She's been quiet lately. 8-23-2015 7:47pm
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  18. Cleveland If a single guy was all into you, met online via tinder, and really wanting to meet you even though he knows your married-- does that make him weird? 8-22-2015 6:41pm (21 replies)
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    • Yes 8-22-2015 6:42pm
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      • So you wouldnt meet him? How do you find married person? AM creeped me out 8-22-2015 6:43pm
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    • ^^^ you are 8-22-2015 6:42pm
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    • No, just horny. 8-22-2015 6:42pm
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    • Why would a married woman be on Tinder? 8-22-2015 6:42pm
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      • Where should I go? 8-22-2015 6:43pm
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        • Go for what? 8-22-2015 6:44pm
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          • Find a lover 8-22-2015 6:45pm
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            • Grocery store 8-22-2015 6:47pm
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              • Lol. Been approached once or twice. But what if they are single? 8-22-2015 6:48pm
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        • Where do you lve? 8-22-2015 6:45pm
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    • For sure 8-22-2015 6:47pm
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      • He told me is he on tinder to find a friend, a lover and if something more developed it would be like winning a lottery- ie doesn't expect it 8-22-2015 6:49pm
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    • You're. 8-22-2015 6:48pm
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      • I know that, corrected myself 8-22-2015 6:50pm
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    • So you told him eh? I knew it wouldn't deter him. 8-22-2015 6:49pm
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      • Lol. Yes I was talking to different men, told both, both didnt care. But too many red flags with one, so he is out of picture 8-22-2015 6:50pm
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        • Listen, if you just want to get laid you need to stop overthinking. 8-22-2015 6:54pm
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    • the dude wants to get laid. Hence tinder. He doesn't care about your situation. Sex please. 8-22-2015 9:11pm
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    • DUDE - get a divorce. We've already talked. You are being a giant fucking chicken shit. 8-22-2015 10:46pm
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  19. Cleveland Things to do today in Cleveland...(more) 8-22-2015 7:55am (1 reply)
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  20. Cleveland Hahahaha found my ex-affair's email on the Ashley Madison list! Hilarious. I hope his wife found it too. 8-22-2015 12:44am (4 replies)
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    • How do you look up that info? 8-22-2015 7:45am
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    • I am 99% sure mine was on AM but he's too smart to use a real email address. He is the most calculating manipulative lying piece of shit I've ever met. I can't wait for the day...(more) 8-22-2015 9:16am
      his dw figures knows the truth. Karma.
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    • now an email has been sent to the email you looked up stating that it was looked up. 8-22-2015 10:47pm
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      • and he can shit himself wondering if it was his dw 8-26-2015 11:21pm
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  21. Cleveland Thoughts?...(more) 8-21-2015 9:20am (7 replies)
    • Stupid 8-21-2015 9:27am
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    • I like it. Explains a lot about my failed marriage. 8-21-2015 9:30am
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    • I totally agree. Dh and I are this way. 8-21-2015 9:32am
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    • A roundabout way of saying she was impossible to live with. The choosing thing doesn't work here. 8-21-2015 2:11pm
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    • The moron is basically saying that it was her fault that he was an asshole to her - and that he should've been a stronger man to not be an asshole to a woman he loves no matter...(more) 8-21-2015 4:41pm
      what she does.
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      • my take is that they were both too selfish and immature / wrapped up in themselves...(more) 8-21-2015 4:46pm
        to the detriment of their relationship. had either of them stepped back and examined the part that they contributed, instead of blaming or expecting more from their partner, they probably could have had a better outcome.
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        • I wonder if she would agree that she never did exactly that. It would seem to me something most people do before ending a serious relationship. I suspect it is easier to say,...(more) 8-21-2015 4:49pm
          "If only we had been nicer.."
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  22. Cleveland What ever happened to... 8-20-2015 10:38pm (54 replies)
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    • Scrunchies 8-20-2015 10:42pm
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    • I meant "people" on here....June mom, garage mom 8-20-2015 11:00pm
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      • I come here to lurk once in a while but less and less since I got the closure I needed....(more) 8-21-2015 1:25pm
        .....just focusing on myself and living an honest life. No secrets. No lying. no affairs. I focus on kids and work and good health. I work out a lot more, I've been volunteering for a children's charity, and I found a church that I like. Now I read what goes on here to serve as a reminder of how miserable I was when I used to be so deceitful. Now I sleep like a baby and I feel like a genuinely happy person.
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        • How's your ex life? 8-21-2015 2:07pm
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          • ^sex 8-21-2015 2:07pm
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            • I should also say I'm really happy for you. You've got it together. 8-21-2015 2:12pm
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              • thanks...but it's been a relatively short period of success. I appreciate that though. 8-21-2015 3:35pm
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            • I don't have one....and that's okay. I will at some point but when I'm ready....(more) 8-21-2015 3:34pm
              I stay away from porn and dating sites....I just focus on being well.
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        • Did she ever contact you other than the post here? 8-21-2015 2:34pm
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          • no she did not. I don't expect her to. too much damage done. 8-21-2015 3:32pm
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            • Let's take a vote. How many think she should reach out to him and how many think both should just move on?...(more) 8-21-2015 8:06pm
              And explain why you voted that way.
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              • i can't remember what the situation was. 8-22-2015 12:52am
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                • Look up "SLA DH" 8-22-2015 7:44am
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              • this is SLA DH: no point in taking any votes. We are both moving on....(more) 8-22-2015 2:31pm
                I can't be in a relationship that is not healthy (she's married) and she would never want to be with me because of how much I betrayed her. There's really nothing to contemplate. We are moving on. I just wanted to tell her some things as a matter of closure. And I got to do that. There's nothing more to do at this point. She knows I'll always care about her....and I want nothing more than for her to be happy.
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                • Makes me sad... 8-22-2015 5:47pm
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                  • why? 8-22-2015 9:09pm
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                    • All of it just seems like a waste. 8-23-2015 12:19am
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                      • I hope to be friends with her again someday. 8-23-2015 6:19pm
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                        • any hope of getting back with gf? 8-23-2015 9:01pm
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                          • no. I confessed all that I did during our years. together she is beyond done. We...(more) 8-23-2015 9:41pm
                            keep things mostly amicable but she is clearly done. It's for the best.
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        • Np: you sound like a really decent guy. Happy for you. 8-21-2015 3:57pm
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        • Will you answer some questions for me? 8-21-2015 4:37pm
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          • Good timing. I just logged on. I'll try. go ahead. 8-21-2015 4:39pm
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            • What were you looking for in an affair? Would you mess around with anyone who was willing? Did you flatter them and tell them things you didn't mean? Did you tell them you...(more) 8-21-2015 4:58pm
              loved them even when you didn't give a shit about them?
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              • Also were you on AM? 8-21-2015 4:58pm
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                • i kind of already explained all of this on an earlier thread but essentially...(more) 8-21-2015 5:14pm
                  I deep down needed affirmation. Feelings of low self worth, guilt, anxiety all led me to seek affirmation the only way I knew how. I never said I love you unless I meant it, and even then I only used that with my affair because I genuinely believed and felt like I did love her. My lying was more centered around trying to create a narrative that made the woman feel like I was a good guy in a bad situation. I exaggerated the bad at home and I didn't discuss the good. I had such low self esteem - I couldn't be honest about myself because I believed that a woman would not love me for who I am. not sure if this makes sense.
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                  • Yes that makes sense. I understand how you felt about one, I was asking more about the others ie you would find any hideous skank, tell her she is your fantasy woman, say I love...(more) 8-21-2015 5:17pm
                    you, tell her you care for just to fuck her.
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                    • oh hell no! I had to have a personal connection in order to be physically attracted...(more) 8-21-2015 5:20pm
                      I mean this...if the woman is beautiful /hot but there's no chemistry I would not be in to it. I went on at least four or five "coffee" dates while on AM and I declined to take them any further. It wasn't just about sex. I was looking for a connection too. If it were just about sex I could go to a prostitute or massage parlor. I never did those things.
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                • and yes I was on AM. That's how I met my affair and the woman I cheated on her with too....(more) 8-21-2015 5:17pm
                  my secret is out with my friends and family so I'm not sweating the leak. They already know what i did and that I'm changing my life for the better.
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                  • Did you use your real email address and use cc? 8-21-2015 5:19pm
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                    • I used a bogus email that I cancelled / deleted several months ago. I did use my...(more) 8-21-2015 5:23pm
                      credit card and yes I expect to be found at some point via a search when that becomes available. Yes she lives in my neighborhood but I don't live in the same place anymore. But I'm still pretty close to where she lives. same general area.
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                      • What kind of women were you finding there? Were you surprised that you found someone in your neighborhood? I can't imagine any normal woman being on there - were any of them...(more) 8-21-2015 5:25pm
                        hookers?
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                        • they were mostly professional woman. I had a date with an attorney, a headhunter,...(more) 8-21-2015 5:29pm
                          a woman who had a PHD in Psychology, and one who was in HR with a major retailer. most were attractive but not gorgeous. a lot was vetted in the emailing / texting process. my affair was beautiful, professional, educated, and she had a tremendous body. But besides that we became great friends and we made each other laugh. we'd text / talk for hours every day.
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                        • oh and yes I we were both surprised to be in the same neighborhood. in fact...(more) 8-21-2015 5:34pm
                          that's how we started getting to know one another over email, just talking about people who we happen to know in common. we had never met prior, but we both knew a lot of the same people. so it was risky for us to meet near where we lived, because the odds were too great that we would bump into people we knew. But, it was good because we would go running together after work or have spur of the moment meetings at the grocery store.
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                          • Did your dw know you were going running with someone? why did you meet at the grocery? to talk or were you fucking in the bathroom? 8-21-2015 5:43pm
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                            • ^that is all insanely risky. Was that part of the appeal? 8-21-2015 5:43pm
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                              • we just wanted to see each other. no fucking in the bathroom. my DW knew...(more) 8-21-2015 5:45pm
                                I was running but didn't know I was with anyone. gotta go..
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                  • doesn't your affair live in your neighborhood? 8-21-2015 5:20pm
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                    • are you the same person I've answered talked to before on this board? or is this the first time we've exchanged?...(more) 8-21-2015 5:25pm
                      if so - what's your story? Why are you here?
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                      • Yes we've exchanged some. I've never shared my affair story here and don't intend to. But I like reading other experiences and a dh's perspective 8-21-2015 5:28pm
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                        • ^I was duped by someone like you, he ultimately destroyed what was left of my self esteem. 8-21-2015 5:31pm
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                          • I'm very sorry to hear that. That's why I'm not doing this anymore. too many people get hurt....(more) 8-21-2015 5:36pm
                            my kids. my ex's kids. and my affair whom I cared for very deeply all got hurt. It's just not worth it.
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                            • I agree 8-21-2015 5:39pm
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                              • i have to go. Like I said I really don't log in to this site much anymore. It's probebly...(more) 8-21-2015 5:44pm
                                not healthy for me to chat with online strangers. slippery slope. So I'm going to log out. I wish you well. If you ever want to learn more about the DH perspective there are two books I'd recommend. "out of the Shadows" by Patrick Carnes, and "when he's married to Mom" about mother enmeshed men. (can't remember the author) These books give a great insight into how guys like me other cheating men think.
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    • Anal Training Mom 8-24-2015 7:22pm
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      • Where have you been??? 8-24-2015 7:27pm
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  23. Cleveland Went on LinkedIn and saw affair as a rec. Probably shouldn't connect, huh? 8-20-2015 10:19pm (6 replies)
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    • If you are a hooker, absolutely. He could write a great reccomendation for you! 8-20-2015 10:21pm
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      • I'm retired 8-20-2015 10:21pm
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        • Phst. You don't need to be on LinkedIn! 8-20-2015 10:23pm
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          • I'm looking for a new career 8-20-2015 10:25pm
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            • what career do you want? 8-20-2015 11:10pm
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    • Do you trust him? 8-21-2015 3:43am
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  24. Cleveland Dh is a porn addict and not nice to me. No sex for years and to boot he tells me no man would ever find me attractive. One night so fed up, went on Tinder and connected with a...(more) 8-20-2015 2:02pm (32 replies)
    friend of a friend. He knows I am married etc, we connected on FB. Going on a date with him Saturday. Been chatting couple of weeks. He has told me he thinks I am beautiful and if I like him, he wants to take me somewhere quiet and kiss me . He is single. Yes I know a bunch of lines-- but SO shocking to have a man be nice to me and find me desirable. I thought that was over for me, was beginning to believe what dh says to me.
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    • why won't you divorce? 8-20-2015 2:03pm
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      • Such a good question. Even my therapist got mad at me once-- told me point blank my dh is a loser and I will never be happy with him. I have been scared, have been hoping for...(more) 8-20-2015 2:06pm
        change and just thought no one would want me
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        • You can't just hope life changes for the better for you - you need to make your own change. Of course men will like you. Get out of that awful marriage and do it in an order...(more) 8-20-2015 2:07pm
          that will allow you to respect yourself.
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          • You mean not go on the date? I get that, but I think I need to. Been rejected by dh so many times 8-20-2015 2:10pm
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            • Yes, I mean don't go on the date. You are in a vulnerable state right now and it will be easy to regret your choices. Also, you are risking this man's emotions on a ploy to do...(more) 8-20-2015 2:11pm
              something that allows you to keep on living your little scared life without dealing with the actual issues. You are worthy of respect, of course you are - but live your life like that, don't let your asshole DH talk you into acting like you are worthless enough to cheat.
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              • The man know I am married, I have told him. I know this sounds crazy, but my therapist actually thought it was good idea to explore other options. I told him I needed sex, was...(more) 8-20-2015 2:13pm
                sick of feeling dead
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                • It doesn't matter if he knows. You are entering into a relationship with someone when you aren't actually available. It isn't fair. And your therapist is an idiot. This is...(more) 8-20-2015 2:15pm
                  incredibly damaging.
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                  • Lol maybe he is. He has said some thing that have shocked me. But he has a very long standing reputation 8-20-2015 2:16pm
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                  • ^^^ also why assume it will be a relationship? 8-20-2015 2:18pm
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                    • Every time you engage someone, you are entering into some kind of relationship. It doesn't have to be a committed boyfriend girlfriend thing - but you are entering into something...(more) 8-20-2015 2:20pm
                      where you are both involved.
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                      • I don't know what to do. Just seems so nice to go out and have some be interested and nice to me 8-20-2015 2:22pm
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                        • Yes, but you are taking the chicken route and it will hurt everyone in the end. PICK. Make a choice. Stay married or don't. 8-20-2015 2:24pm
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                          • So cancel date, get separated? 8-20-2015 2:26pm
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                            • yes. And then you can reschedule that date. 8-20-2015 2:27pm
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          • ^^ fwiw dh and I in marriage therapy but all that seems to do is me making efforts and him not much 8-20-2015 2:11pm
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            • You're not making effort if you are dating. 8-20-2015 2:12pm
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              • We have been in marriage therapy over a year, 5 months of it dh has been unemployed and not looking plus he tired to cheat himself 8-20-2015 2:14pm
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                • Yes, he is an asshole and I don't blame you for being done with trying. None the less, you can't say you are trying NOW if you are lining up dates. 8-20-2015 2:15pm
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                  • I am trying. I told dh I wanted to have sex with him, asked him if we could role play a senario to make it exciting for both of us-- all I got was "maybe" 8-20-2015 2:17pm
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                    • You can't possibly be trying AND setting up dates. That is your problem. You can't make a choice. Either be done trying or not. Date or not. You have to CHOOSE. You can't...(more) 8-20-2015 2:21pm
                      have both at the same time. It is damaging and painful and wrong.
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                      • I don't know what to do!! I wasn't going to meet the man but the other night , I let the cat out by accident and dh got so mad he told me he wished I would drop dead. After he...(more) 8-20-2015 2:24pm
                        said that I told the other guy I wanted to meet up with him
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                        • Great, so you are going to meet up with him out of spite to your DH. LEAVE your DH out of spite for him. Don't take it out this way. 8-20-2015 2:24pm
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                          • What do you suggest I do? 8-20-2015 2:25pm
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                            • I suggest you leave your DH. 8-20-2015 2:26pm
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                              • I know. I had hoped for so long things would improve. They never will 8-20-2015 2:27pm
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                                • I agree with you. You will feel better - and you will learn to value yourself and not need a man wanting to touch you to feel value. 8-20-2015 2:28pm
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                                  • I feel value in myself. Just not a desirable woman. Figured that was over for me. But I am only 41!! 8-20-2015 2:29pm
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                                    • It is not over for you. Just get your life in order first. Then you can branch out. 8-20-2015 2:30pm
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                                    • ^^ I had sort of resigned myself to life where I was miserable 8-20-2015 2:30pm
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                        • ^^ Fwiw our cat goes out all day long. And the cat came back after an hour 8-20-2015 2:25pm
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    • Leave the single guy out. He's weird for wanting to engage you as a married person anyway. Speaking as a person who used to be. 8-20-2015 6:42pm
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    • friend of a friend? you're crazy 8-20-2015 8:21pm
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  25. Cleveland With no AM or AFF, where to turn for an affair?! 8-20-2015 12:32am (12 replies)
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    • YBM. 8-20-2015 12:32am
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      • yah? that easy? 8-20-2015 12:33am
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      • show me he way 8-20-2015 12:39am
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      • agreed. 8-20-2015 11:03am
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      • I found mine here. 8-20-2015 12:45pm
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    • bar, tinder, okcupid etc 8-20-2015 12:33am
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      • tinder you have to use Facebook pictures and run he risk of someone you know looking 8-20-2015 12:33am
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        • you can upload a pic but keep hidden and use for tinder. duh. 8-23-2015 8:03am
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      • ok cupid? never tried. 8-20-2015 12:34am
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    • dont have one 8-20-2015 12:34am
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    • grocery store. a treasure trove of tasty men. Found mine there. 8-20-2015 11:11am
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      • This is a new one for me. I need to pay more attention while shopping. 8-20-2015 11:24pm
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