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  1. Toddler Ds is disappointed that my father is cooking chicken tonight, but I said sorry, it's not a restaurant. Be thankful we have food. 37 min ago (1 reply)
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  2. Toddler Fuck, the ice cream truck!! 37 min ago (1 reply)
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    • if anybody really wanted to fuck around on black friday, all they'd have to do is run an ice cream truck in teh parking lot right before the store doors opened... 35 min ago
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  3. Toddler Anyone know what the Amber Alert today was about? nyc 38 min ago (1 reply)
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    • woman lefg her birkin in an uber 35 min ago
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  4. Toddler Did you see that paris hilton plane crash prank? that was just awful. seriously evil. 39 min ago (17 replies)
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    • Ira.'she should sue 37 min ago
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    • it was staged 37 min ago
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      • yes. but she wasn't in on it. 36 min ago
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        • yes she was 36 min ago
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        • i saw it and she seemed like she was acting 35 min ago
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    • Hey, maybe her come to god moment will change her life for the better. "Sister Paris"--has a nice ring to it 37 min ago
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    • i can't stand her so i didn't watch, but i did read she will sue 37 min ago
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    • it was not real....she was in on it 36 min ago
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      • what point does it serve her to do that? 35 min ago
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        • we are talking about it...that's what it serves 35 min ago
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          • that she looks like a fool for being in on some stupid prank? 34 min ago
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            • like she did with her sex tape 34 min ago
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              • she is pretty vilifie at this point. she had the positive attention for like two years and that was it 33 min ago
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      • NO WAY 33 min ago
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  5. Toddler If you scare you child by yelling, is that breaking their trust? 39 min ago (10 replies)
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    • no. 39 min ago
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    • no, they want boundaries 39 min ago
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      • you can set boundaries very easily without yelling 38 min ago
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        • that was not the question 38 min ago
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        • np: not true about all children 33 min ago
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          • yeah, it pretty much is. This whole "never say no to your kids" thing is a pile of shit 31 min ago
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            • I so no, a lot, and HAVE to yell too 31 min ago
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    • i hope not 38 min ago
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    • i haven't really had to yell since dc was little, so if i do, i think it will mean that I mean business 36 min ago
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    • no. 34 min ago
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  6. Toddler Friends who we had plans with on the 3rd and 4th just canceled. What would you do if you had both days open? 1 infant dc. 40 min ago (10 replies)
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    • STay out of NY and away from airports/airplanes from what the news is saying. :-( 39 min ago
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      • you can't live like that! 38 min ago
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      • We are in SD but thank you. What's going on in NYC? 38 min ago
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        • nothing - someone's been watching fox news 33 min ago
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          • I can't even find it on fox 29 min ago
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      • wtf? 36 min ago
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    • Work on the 3rd and prepare a nice brunch on the 4th. Walk to the water and see the fireworks in the evening. 35 min ago
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    • i hate last minute cancelers 33 min ago
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    • I would just chill and enjoy having nothing on my calendar. Instead I will be entertaining my crazy bil and SIL 32 min ago
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  7. Toddler Do you believe that if you have broken a child's trust, say by yelling or screaming at them so horribly that you scared them, you can ever regain it again? 42 min ago (29 replies)
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    • yes 41 min ago
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    • of course ryou can regain it. 41 min ago
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    • No. They'll turn to sex and drugs almost immediately. So sad to see all the six year olds in skid row... "if only I had known Mommy cared THAT DEEPLY about me flushing her phone...(more) 40 min ago
      down the toilet!"
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    • i yell when i'm pissed off. i don't love it, i don't think it's great, but it's what i do. i think my kids have just gotten used to it. uh oh... here goes mom with the full...(more) 40 min ago
      baboon routine again...
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      • My parents yelled a lot, and after a while you don't even notice. I'm still close with them. I try not to yell, but my kids just don't listen, so I resort to yelling sometimes. 38 min ago
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        • or: my dad yelled a lot. i was raised in fear. weird thing is i'm not sure what i was afraid of. we got the occasional spanking but it wasn't anything ridiculous or scarring...(more) 36 min ago
          (emotionally or physically). i grew older, he stopped yelling. i think he mellowed out and i stopped being a little kid. little kids can be really frustrating and hard to deal with. they're not rational, they're not considerate, they're not polite, and they haven't quite figured out what it means to be - or not to be - an asshole. i think for me that's where the yelling comes from - just sheer frustration. i do apologize to them sometimes. other times we just all seem to get over the moment very quickly.
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          • Sounds like my dad too. I dunno, maybe a little fear is good. My kids sure don't seem afraid of me... maybe if they were, they'd behave a little bit better and not do things...(more) 34 min ago
            they know they shouldn't be doing.
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            • ha. i guess that's how i measure too. my kids still do whatever the hell they're going to do anyway. when i was a kid i just didn't piss dad off. 33 min ago
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          • NP I grew up the same way and an the same as you w my DC. What really killed my self-esteem as a teen was my parents having absolutely no interest in what I was doing in HS or...(more) 30 min ago
            preparing me for college. I was not allowed to go to prom and when I asked for $ to take the SAT my mom said "what for?".
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            • That's awful, I'm sorry. 29 min ago
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              • Thanks I'm over it but I really believe that building a child's self-worth/esteem is the most important. 26 min ago
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      • my mom yelled a lot. i stopped listening after a while, once i got old enough to realize it was her own tantrum, and had nothing to do with me. it was very annoying, the one thing...(more) 33 min ago
        about her i choose not to emulate.
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    • I don't think trust is broken that easily, but I do think that fear changes dcs and yelling affects self-esteem 40 min ago
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      • Right but what are you yelling about and how? I understand losing it once in a while but losing it and putting your child down 35 min ago
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        • ^^ does way more damage IMO 34 min ago
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        • I don't do that. If I did, I would seriously work in getting control of myself. I don't really understand people who take no responsibility for this behavior and are content to...(more) 33 min ago
          Actaeon when they feel like it. So out of line.
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          • it's the ybm way. scream at your kids. rationalize it by saying everyone does it. 30 min ago
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          • I hear you and I wasn't directing the question at you personally. 28 min ago
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    • yes - my mom did this all the time 39 min ago
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    • One of few things I learned in a parenting class was about "repair" and that of course parents lose their tempers but acknowledge and apologize. 39 min ago
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      • this is what we do. When we lose our temper, we apologize. Same way we make our kids do it 32 min ago
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        • We're all human, dear. 25 min ago
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    • Absolutely. But keep working on it. The child probably needs some help in the behavior dept as well. No one blows up at a kid over nothing. 37 min ago
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      • you say that, but there are plenty of parent who simply don't have the patience or tolerance that is helpful when dealing with young kids. the adults are lacking, the kids are...(more) 32 min ago
        acting their ages.
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      • Oh, it's the kids fault. 31 min ago
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        • Pretty sure OR is talking about those realizing their faults and seeking some help. There are kids who require a lot more work than others. 23 min ago
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    • Your own child yes. Some other child maybe not 35 min ago
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    • once, most likely. if you do it enough times, no. 3 min ago
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  8. Toddler Can anyone recommend a cat sitter service in nyc? 42 min ago (4 replies)
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    • years ago, we sent our cats to the paws inn on the west side 40 min ago
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      • My cat is too skittish to go somewhere. but thanks\ 40 min ago
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    • I read this as CAR sitter service and thought - Jesus, New Yorkers will pay for anything lol. 34 min ago
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  9. Toddler This post has been disliked 3 times. showDh has said he would find it harder to deal with ds being gay than dd and I agree with him 43 min ago (28 replies)
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    • and what if dd just likes it up the ass? 42 min ago
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      • you are gross and lowbrow 42 min ago
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        • you are gross and homophobic and sexist. 41 min ago
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          • not homophobic, because I am ok with female gayness, and not sexist because I am also against hetero anal sex 39 min ago
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            • and you seem to lack a grasp of basic social constructs... 38 min ago
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    • well duh, straight ds and gay dds means no teen boys ever coming over for romantic reasons. Sounds like paradise for dads 42 min ago
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    • What's to deal with? Honestly. What would be so awful about a gay son? 41 min ago
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      • nobody wants to raise someone who just takes it up the butt. It is inherently unmasculine and gross 40 min ago
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        • You're just raising your kids to be sexual creatures? 39 min ago
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        • You realize your de might want to do that someday too 39 min ago
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          • well i'd prefer that not happen but if it does it's still not the primary form of intercourse, like it is for gay men 37 min ago
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        • np: not all gay men have anal sex 38 min ago
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          • also gay male oral sex makes me uncomfortable 36 min ago
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            • it's a good thing you aren't a gay man. :) 35 min ago
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          • I thought I just read a statistic that it was only like a third. 26 min ago
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      • it would be for a lot men outside of your progressive bubble 39 min ago
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        • I'm actually an orthodox Jew and realize this. I wish people could verbalize it though 38 min ago
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          • Do Orthodox Jews ever come out? 36 min ago
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            • Yes, when they know their family will accept them 24 min ago
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          • verbalize what? 36 min ago
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            • Why it's such a big deal 23 min ago
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              • you're not a man I presume 17 min ago
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                • No. But op said it would be a big deal to her 16 min ago
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                  • ok that makes sense... it's possible she's concerned b/c gay males are looked down on more than gay females 14 min ago
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                    • She said it would be harder to deal with. That means her own personal feelings. Why? That's what I don't get. 13 min ago
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                      • yes I see now, strange but I guess some women think like that too 10 min ago
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    • Same sex parents over-identify with their dc. It's a gap in insight. You feel like it's a reflection on you. 38 min ago
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    • I would find it harder if they turned into Muslims, than being gay 31 min ago
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  10. Toddler Donor of 100k to Girl Scouts stipulates it must not be used for transgender girls. Thoughts? 44 min ago (27 replies)
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    • i'm so glad they gave it back. 44 min ago
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      • They do not need it. Soros will give them plenty 43 min ago
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    • How come Girl Scouts sends kids to Media Matters? 43 min ago
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      • What? Isn't Media Matters a website? 43 min ago
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        • Why is Girl Scouts espousing leftist crap though? Why not be neutral? 42 min ago
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          • Do you feel the same way about Boy Scouts' right wing bullshit? 41 min ago
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            • Actuallly... Boy Scouts are now coopted by the Left as well 41 min ago
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              • Hardly. They had to let gay boys in or else their major donors were going to back out. They've doubled down on their religious crap instead. 40 min ago
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                • I do not see that and I also see them abandoning the 10/22 rifle training unfortunately 38 min ago
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                  • Then you aren't following them, if you haven't noticed. They're very public about it, there have been blog posts on the subject on their blog, etc. 37 min ago
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              • coopted? 37 min ago
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    • I'd tell them to fuck off 43 min ago
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    • whatever, it's his money, they can reject it if they want too. They don't have to take it with stipulations. 43 min ago
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    • they rejected the money. They decided what their values were. I agree with them 43 min ago
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      • SHIT--if that's the case, my dd is out of girl scouts. dumb FUCKERS 33 min ago
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    • ^^sorry, Buzzfeed link would not copy :( 43 min ago
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    • I'm glad they gave it back, and raised the money again in a day. 43 min ago
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    • are they going to check under their skirts? 43 min ago
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    • wonderful and how fast they raised the $$, 43 min ago
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    • Have they named the donor? 41 min ago
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    • That's their prerogative. JESUS CHRIST on a cracker if we can't make decisions for ourselves, EVEN when it's OUR money 41 min ago
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    • caitlyn id such a fucking douche, I though the same about bruce 38 min ago
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    • how would anyone know. when you join the girl scouts do they check your vagina 38 min ago
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      • You believe young boys who are years away from puberty should be allowed to live as females? 36 min ago
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        • i don't have a strong opinion, but how would you know if a prebuscent girl is actually a girl. 34 min ago
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          • my 12yo dd is mistaken for a boy every single day. She has short hair (very chic) and doesn't care for glitter/pink. But wears earrings. Nevertheless…everyday, she is referred to...(more) 28 min ago
            as "he".
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  11. Toddler Did you guys already do Garner v. Affleck? 45 min ago (4 replies)
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    • 100 times 45 min ago
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    • He's a dick. And she's probably a bitch, but seems like a really good mom, and I hope raises the kids to be normal and level headed. 42 min ago
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      • She's really nice. I have met her multiple times. 24 min ago
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    • is there something new? other than rumored divorce for weeks and months? 35 min ago
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  12. Toddler Omg..this crazy-ass usa/germany game 45 min ago (0 replies)
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  13. Toddler I woudl like you all to know, that I used a new razor today and DID NOT SLICE MY LEG ALL TO HELL (esp. around the ankle) 46 min ago (3 replies)
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    • i can't remember the last time i cut myself shaving my legs. and i use some pretty nasty looking razors sometimes. 43 min ago
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    • You need to buy better razors! 41 min ago
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      • It is a good razor (venus). I just am a klutz 39 min ago
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  14. Toddler Have you seen the old documentary "a day without mexicans?" 47 min ago (5 replies)
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    • yes/ Use it in teaching 46 min ago
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      • leftist propaganda? 44 min ago
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        • Latinos in the US. 43 min ago
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    • yes 41 min ago
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    • Someone needs to make that jackass Donald trump watch it. Twice. 40 min ago
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  15. Toddler What does Derp mean? 48 min ago (5 replies)
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    • Johnny Derp. 48 min ago
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    • it's like retard, but people won't jump all over you for using a forbidden word 47 min ago
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      • my kids are saying it (they watch some Youtube video about Bloons Monkey City (a game) and Derp was used 46 min ago
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    • dumbass. 42 min ago
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  16. Toddler I thought ds was becoming feminist by watching Team USA. He just has a crush on Alex Morgan and Hope Solo :( 49 min ago (3 replies)
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    • watching women's soccer is not "becoming feminist" 47 min ago
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  17. Toddler What is the whole controversy with Donald trump and Mexico? What did he say? 49 min ago (94 replies)
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    • loys and lots of vile things. Quelle surprise. 49 min ago
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    • that mexican immigrants are drug dealers and rapists 49 min ago
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      • Not every single one but he's right about them emptying jails into the US 48 min ago
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        • wrong again. 48 min ago
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        • Who? The Mexican gov't is paying coyotes thousands of dollars to sneak people across the border? Really? Really? 41 min ago
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        • do you know how hard it is to get here?? 40 min ago
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      • So go pick your own produce! Let's see how that works. 47 min ago
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        • why are you saying this to me? 47 min ago
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        • Better yet - have legal ones pick it or even better, have welfare people do it 45 min ago
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          • OMG. You are so clueless about the ag. business. MOST of the migrant workers are on LEGAL temp visas. I give up. 44 min ago
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        • Prisoners should be picking produce. 45 min ago
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          • illegal but that's OK 41 min ago
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            • Better than them sitting around all day. 40 min ago
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              • you may think that, but it's still illegal 37 min ago
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    • He doesn't like guacamole 49 min ago
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    • He said the truth. That Mexico and some So Am nations dump their criminals and scum in the USA. 49 min ago
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      • Agree 48 min ago
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      • you could not be more wrong. Where did your ancestors come from? this should be fun. 48 min ago
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        • Stop w/this stupid comparison. our ancestors came here legally 47 min ago
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          • ^^. And worked hard and didn't rape the system 47 min ago
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          • Oh REALLY??? DO TELL. I'll wait.. 47 min ago
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            • My ancestors were legal. They came through Ellis Island . Didn't crawl in a tunnel or cross in on me and border 46 min ago
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              • Cross an unmanned border 46 min ago
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              • good lord are you this dumb? 46 min ago
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                • So they weren't legal? Do tell, I just can't wait 45 min ago
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              • There was no legal or illegal. If you could pay to come over, you did 41 min ago
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        • what does this have to do with shit? np 47 min ago
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          • everything. EVERY immigrant wave is decried this way. Google how the Irish were treated. 46 min ago
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            • I don't need to google this--I know my history. 45 min ago
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        • Mine came, cleared Ellis Island and then learned English all on their own and made it with zero hand outs or free stuff. 47 min ago
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          • sure.. and from where? 46 min ago
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          • mine were dragged here on a boat adn beaten and raped and given new names and frced to work from sun up until sundown and took no handouts 45 min ago
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            • I'm sorry. I really am (even though my ancestors came here after all of that) 45 min ago
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              • no need to be sorry 44 min ago
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            • You can thank the Arab traders and their fellow Africans for that but if you do not like it here - there's a whole big continent you can go back to 44 min ago
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              • the slavery happened in this country and I am not african, I am of african descent but I am american, probably more american than you 42 min ago
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                • Are you a hater too? SO many people of color hate now. It's sad 41 min ago
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                  • I a not even sure what you mean 41 min ago
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                    • Obama and the race baiters have fomented hatred where there did not used to be 40 min ago
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                      • how's that tin foil hat? 39 min ago
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                      • np: this ITTTA with--Obama has escalated such division between blacks and whites during his time in office. It will be a black mark (no pun intended) on his legacy 38 min ago
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                        • such a crazy and delusional stance 38 min ago
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                          • tell me what is delusional or crazy about this. You can criticize it, but only if you can tell me why this isn't true. I'll wait 37 min ago
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                            • that has not happened 36 min ago
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                              • wtf? Have you been living under a fucking rock the past six years? 35 min ago
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                                • no, like i said you are delusional 34 min ago
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                                  • again--just shit talk, nothing to back it up. Okay, I see. Moving on….. 32 min ago
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                        • Only crazy white people think this. 31 min ago
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                          • No, only educated people who can SEE 31 min ago
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                            • not a chance, but you have obviously convinced yourself. 27 min ago
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            • But ultimately given a better life for their decendants 42 min ago
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              • I guess that is how you woud see things does not mean that I agree with you 42 min ago
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                • Do you think you would be where you are if Africans hadn't been brought over 40 min ago
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                  • I don''t know and this is such a silly hypothetical conversation 40 min ago
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                    • There should be don't you think? 39 min ago
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                      • should be what? 37 min ago
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                        • Considered and thought about 37 min ago
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                          • why, no reason to 36 min ago
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                            • So you would have been happy being a tribe in Africa instead of here in the United States? 33 min ago
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                              • ^^ you are lucky and you know it 32 min ago
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              • True. They sacrificed 41 min ago
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            • Sorry but I didn't do it and I am not gonna take any more put down shit from haters 42 min ago
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              • no one said you did it 42 min ago
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                • Oh please! ALl this white privilege crao and so on... it never stops. I have just had it 41 min ago
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                  • I did not make any mention of that 40 min ago
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              • Take that shit elsewhere, a lot of good that attitude does on an anonymous site. 33 min ago
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          • Ditto 45 min ago
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          • From Mexico to Ellis island? How'd that happen? 44 min ago
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          • Whatever, you a damn prize. But many many came illegally from Europe, Asia, and yes now from South America, Russia, etc. people of all stripes come illegally, man of the bust...(more) 36 min ago
            their asses harder than many here will ever know just so that their kids will have a better shot. They are NOT all criminals, stop talking out of your ass.
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        • Dummy. 46 min ago
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      • where are you getting your facts? 48 min ago
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        • Where are you? Clinton Crime Family for America? 46 min ago
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    • mexican immigrants are drug dealers and murders and rapists, but he ended it with the classy "and some, i assume, are good people" 45 min ago
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      • It would be better if they picked up their trash and had pride in their neighborhoods. 43 min ago
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        • They're too busy picking your produce, caring for YOUR kids, and cutting your grass for peanuts. Dumb fuck. 34 min ago
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          • I don't have any hired help here, fucktard. 21 min ago
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  18. Toddler What is an "effective" tax rate? Like if I deduct a lot of home office expense from what I owe - that counts? i.e. tax shelters? 50 min ago (0 replies)
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  19. Toddler Are you supposed to put a two week notice in writing? 50 min ago (1 reply)
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    • I send smoke signals 49 min ago
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  20. Toddler HPV vaccine - have you gotten your boys HPV? ds is close to the age to do it. 50 min ago (8 replies)
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    • yes. 12. both of them. DD's too. 49 min ago
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      • OP: i was sort of shocked that a friend's ped "didn't like the vaccine" b/c of side effects? and her daughters didn't get it. a close relative died of cervical cancer! i was...(more) 48 min ago
        amazed and saddened.
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        • Oh please. There is always an anti vax nut job. It;s FINE and idiotic to not do it. 45 min ago
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          • actually this was what was even more disturbing. my friend is not even the slightest bit anti vaccine. her PED was. and she accepted it w/out question. she's a great mom and got...(more) 41 min ago
            really defensive when i just said "yikes!" but it was more about her doc than her.
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    • yes, 13yo. It's a bit of a pain, you have to go back 3X 48 min ago
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    • my DS will get it at 14 (next yr) 46 min ago
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    • Yes. both ds. Not sure why anyone would not. Have not heard of any negative side effects 37 min ago
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  21. Toddler Am I the only one with a toe that has a razor sharp edge ? I have to clip it down. I do get peds too 50 min ago (0 replies)
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  22. Toddler I am so shocked the ben and jen divorce. I don't get how you go from looking so seemingly solid and happy to going through with a divorce....(more) 51 min ago (14 replies)
    They have three little kids....so sad.
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    • You see the highlights reel only. 50 min ago
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    • They haven't looked happy in a long time 50 min ago
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    • it's always sad. there have been rumors for a long time 49 min ago
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    • you see what their pr people want you to see. this has been rumored since the 3rd db was born 49 min ago
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    • They are actors. Their public personae is their business 49 min ago
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    • i think it is sad, too. they seemed like a nice family 48 min ago
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    • Link?????? 48 min ago
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    • Their SNL appearance was one of the most awkward things I’ve ever seen. 48 min ago
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    • people have been saying it here for a while. The "marriage is work thing" likely didn't help 45 min ago
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    • They haven't looked happy in years. Look at how miserable he is in these photos. Shows what a crappy actor he is....(more) 44 min ago
    • he gives out douche vibes and she really isn't that hot 37 min ago
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      • She's cute, not hot. 36 min ago
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      • marriage isnt about hotness 34 min ago
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  23. Toddler DD is getting breast buds and you can see the shape through some of the shirts. She seems unaware, but do I need to get her anything, like an extra layer of something? 51 min ago (10 replies)
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    • I got mine those halter looking bras out of cotton. Loved them 50 min ago
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      • np: what's the brand? 32 min ago
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    • Like a training bra? Yes 50 min ago
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    • This is when Sugar Lips tanks became a mainstay of my dd's wardrobe, along with sports bras. 50 min ago
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    • Yes. Make it cute - and just this once, maybe do the shopping for her and show her the options at home. 46 min ago
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    • Hijack: how old? 34 min ago
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      • almost 10 33 min ago
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        • Thx. I know it's younger and younger these days and have this feeling dd will be early 32 min ago
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    • Mine wears a training bra sometimes. She's 9 and I don't think any of her friends wear one, so she's reluctant. 33 min ago
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      • ^^I also bought looser, patterned shirts so it was less obvious. 32 min ago
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  24. Toddler My kids annoyed me so bad today at lunch when they would not touch their sandwiches. I wrapped them up and said this is your snack. They never asked for snack and were terrible...(more) 51 min ago (16 replies)
    today. I told them to wait outside until dinner which was the sandwiches. I keep walking outside telling them, "anytime you are ready for your sandwiches, I got them" I am sure they are rolling their eyes but they are staying outside. NO food until the sandwiches are eaten
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    • Mommy Dearest! 50 min ago
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    • Ok mommy dearest 50 min ago
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      • yes, i am so terrible. 50 min ago
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    • Omg. Why? You sound like a devil mother. Who cares if they eat it or not? 49 min ago
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      • you guys are so funny since when is this so wicked? 49 min ago
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    • holy shit. why the obsession with these sandwiches, Betsy? 49 min ago
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      • you guys are raising brats. 48 min ago
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        • and you're raising kids who probably can't WAIT to get the hell out of your house (and become psychos) 47 min ago
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          • And spend years in therapy talking about their crazy mom 46 min ago
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        • No, I show my child respect. Why force someone to eat something they clearly don't want to? What are you teaching them exactly? 47 min ago
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          • np: it's all about the stand-off for her. "I can beat them at their own game--I'll show them!" 46 min ago
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    • you go girl 47 min ago
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    • what's your stance on wire hangers? 45 min ago
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    • Eh. I've done similar. If they are really hungry they will eat the sandwiches (assuming they aren't awful!) 43 min ago
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    • what kind of sandwiches? 30 min ago
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  25. Toddler 10 days in Italy: 5 in Tuscany and 5 in Rome? Or some other distribution? With 7 yo and 14 yo 51 min ago (13 replies)
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    • i would add florence. we just did italy in 10 days... i would do 4 days in florence 3 in tuscany and 4 in rome. 50 min ago
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      • ^ we also did cinque terre which was amazing if you want to venture off 50 min ago
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        • That didn't feel like a lot of rushing around? 47 min ago
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          • well we actually did venice, florence, cinque terre, and rome. it was a little bit but we didnt mind (no kids though). we had an amazing time. cinque terre was so gorgeous 47 min ago
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            • ^we did a one day trip from florence as well 45 min ago
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              • ^also we flew into venice and out of rome so not quite as much schlepping 45 min ago
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      • Florence will be a day trip from Tuscany 45 min ago
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        • i would do florence and day trip to tuscany 41 min ago
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    • Where in Tuscany? I would include Florence and Venice. 46 min ago
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      • Florence will be a day trip from Tuscany 45 min ago
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    • Can you fit in Venice? It's so magical. You can do it in a day or two with a cheap flight or train from Rome or Florence 46 min ago
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      • And I think Venice is more interesting for kids. You can read The Theif Lord 44 min ago
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      • If it was just me and DH I would, but with kids we've found its better to do fewer locations and do day trips. We were just going to do Tuscany but decided we really wanted to see...(more) 43 min ago
        Rome.
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